uk_martin

I'll go back to my "6 wrongs don't make a right" statement. Just because a wholly inept and incompetent governing body allows for five previous miscarriages of justice, doesn't make letting another instance slip through the net any more "right". I'm sure that if the Police caught me doing 40mph in a 30mph zone, and I said that the 5 cars in front of me were doing 40 as well, I'd still get a speeding ticket, no matter how much I protest against it. What other people get away with is largely water under the bridge.

There's going to be endless "oh no he didn't" vs "oh yes he did" over who protested, and there's the arguement over whether 6 "wrongs" make a "right". At the end of the day, there's a written rule in the book. It doesn't say in the book that it applies only to the EL and PL, it doesn't say that it applies to "same competition" bookings only, and it doesn't say that it doesn't apply on Sundays. I'm sure that when Mr Drury returns to his duties as a Magistrate, he'll be applying the letter of the law, according to the book, and not what he heard from some heresay what the law was thought to be. Imagine if Matt Ford had been caught out booking the same guest twice in that 8 day period. What would we be saying then? One thing I'll agree with from Graham Drury's statement...it was the fans who were the losers. Again.

Because Eastbourne were desparate to win this meeting and from their point of view didn't want to allow Drury to get off scott free for making an illegal guest booking. At the end of the day, it's a schoolboy error on Drury's part. We can blame all and sundry over it as much as we like, but there were even people on BSF debating this rule days ago. If the great unwashed of BSF know this rule you have to expect an experienced team manager to know the rule too, and abide by it.

er, but he's replacing the AWAY team's #1...

So will the BSPA be operating a compensation fund for swindled fans? Be interesting to see how Buster Chapman officially anounces that one.

Kings Lynn, Stoke and Coventry did not complete all their National League home fixtures. Do the season ticket holders of these teams get refunds?

He thinks he can act like Nicki Pedersen when he's only achieved a Nickleodeon.

I'd be surprised if we see Buster Chapman as chairman of the BSPA afer the AGM. He has the behaviour of a man who's tired and fed up of it all. No real attempt to stage or promote the NL Pairs, and he can't be bothered to fulfill his team's league fixtures either. No efforts being made there at all. NOT what the leader of the sport in this country should be setting as an example is it?

Well I didn't see this coming. Best Brummies performance of the year. Happy to add ketchup mustard and mayo on my words and eat them with relish.

Birmingham do NOT have a team that's strong 1-7 at all. Recent result have shown that we have a team that's strong from 3-7, plus an unreliable if not dodgy guest, that's only once put in a true #1 performance, plus Reidar Replacement that could be just as unreliable. Against a team with a strong top two plus an impressive Jake Knight and and guessing that the Brummies will continue throwing some more points into the wind as they seem prone to do lately, I can't see the nostalgics or the romantics getting their way tonight. Brummies will do enough to win, but not by enough to get their hands on any silverware. Are you seriously expecting Ellis Greaves and Adam Ellis to be on the wrong end of early 5-1's? Can't see any "Ellis heat" being anything better than a 3-3 from the Brummies perspective, or even heat advantages to Eastbourne, sadly.

Lee Geary's been called upon in the past as a last minute guest...might need his services again by the looks of things.

Well it seems we are all in a competition to be the most gloomy about our prospects. I've said before that Eastbourne will be to Birmingham this year what Newcastle were to us in 2010 and I'm sticking to that. Eastbourne to nip into Homebase (other retail outlets are available) to buy the silver polish, and the Brummies to be given their BFH (Bus Fare Home)

8 point advantgage to the riders plus 10 points home track advantgage = 18 point win to Eastbourne on the day. 54-36

A GD guest??? Graham Drury's riding?

I'll say what I said on the other thread - 46-44 to Birmingham tonight...

You should put out an advert in the small-ads column of the local paper..."Little Thumper looking for a Big Knob" - You might get more than you are bargaining for. :rofl:

Are you the tax man? Has Jelly Corbyn sent you to make sure that all those dirty capitalistic profiteering enterprises pay their taxes? Even those based in off-shore tax havens?

That's what novices do...and that's what you have to expect in the NL. Eastbourne will do to Birmingham what Newcastle did to Birmingham in 2010. In that season, the Brummies stomped over the rest of the league, but in three two-legged match ups (Premier Trophy Final, PL KOC Final, and Play-Off's semi-final) the Diamonds stuffed the Brummies every time. The price you pay for having one team with a fair track and another with a huge home track advantage. In fact the parallels go further. Newcastle had two unstoppable heat leaders - Kenni Larsen and Rene Bach. Just as Eastbourne have Adam Ellis and Ellis Perks who are both head and shoulders above anything Birmingham have to offer. Can't see the Ellis's (Adam or Perks) dropping points so at least 6 races will be at least 3-3 if no other Eagle turns up, and two 5-1's to the Eagles in heats 13 & 15 before we start. Given that the Eagles will get at least 1 point in heat 2, then that's 29 points at Perry Barr in the bag before the other 5 riders in the team have done a thing. Now if each of those 5 riders only scores 3 points each, their 15 points plus the 29 from the combined might of the Ellis's and a reserve in heat 2, and you go to Arlington damned nearly level pegging. At Arlington, the Eagles start with a 10-point home track advantage, so it's going to be a long old slog for the young kids in the Brummies colours.

Yeah, you can't win anything with kids

Oh go on then... Birmingham: - 39.86 1. Tom Bacon - 7.70 2. Danyon Hume - 7.33 3. Jack Parkinson Blackburn - 6.74 4. Jack Smith - 6.09 5. Ben Hopwood - 6.00 6. Kyle Bickley - 3.00 7. Joe Lawlor - 3.00 Stoke: = 49.67 Luke Priest - 8.56 James Cockle - 7.06 Jon Armstrong - 7.82 Ben Wilson - 8.24 Tony Atkin - 6.86 Lee Smart - 5.71 Lee Dicken - 5.42 There you go. A typically young Birmingham team and a typicaly old Stoke team...and despite the 10 point advantage, I'd put money on that Brummies team beating Stoke any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

It's a sad state of affairs when top riders from 2016 are pencilled in to a 2017 team. Surely for their own sakes we should be wishing them well for an advancement to the PL and build next years teams around this years reserves and the younger second strings?. In any case I suspect that there will be such a shake up at the AGM as to render this game rather pointless, come mid November.

Not exactly "in the best interests of British Speedway" is it? Oh for the good ol' days when if both teams had R/R they would promote their #8's and face each other with 2 x 7-man teams.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... :rofl: :rofl: Now there's the words of someone who obviously doesn't know who he's talking about. The number of miles that Brummiestormer rattles up following the sport around the country and abroad too is equaled by few other fans anywhere. Correct me if my memory fails me, but wasn't that s below par Eastbourne team on the day, with a guest, R/R and a reserve that had to withdraw after heat 2? Hardly circumstances that are likely to be repeated again in the next two fixtures are they?

Are you surprised that the fans don't turn out when the meeting isn't "promoted"? I think Buster is getting tired in his old age, and it's showing. No effort made to promote the event, no effort made to get the track sorted, in contrast to what went on at Eastbourne, and knowing Busters ability as the self proclaimed "best" track curator in the country. My money is on Buster having had enough of his reign as BSPA supremo, and he'll want to stand down at the AGM.

If you want to go and sunbathe in a battlefield, fill yer boots. Money would be the last of my considerations if I went to a place like that.