lucifer sam
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Fundin's peak years were '56 to '63, so he's on the cusp. More world titles in the 60s maybe - but, on the other hand, he was domestically at his best in the 50s. Bjorn Knutsson was a better rider than Crutcher, so I'm keeping my choices are they are. If there was another spot for 40s/50s, I think I'd plump for Graham Warren ahead of Brian Crutcher. All the best Rob
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Each rider only listed once. Yes, Gollob still ahead of Woffy at the moment - that may change in a year or two!! All the best Rob
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1920s/1930s: Jack Milne, Bluey Wilkinson, Tom Farndon, Lionel Van Praag, Vic Huxley 1940s/1950s: Ove Fundin, Vic Duggan, Ronnie Moore, Peter Craven, Jack Young 1960s/1970s: Ivan Mauger, Barry Briggs, Ole Olsen, Peter Collins, Bjorn Knutsson 1980s/1990s: Hans Nielsen, Erik Gundersen, Bruce Penhall, Michael Lee, Jan O Pedersen 2000s/2010s: Tony Rickardsson, Jason Crump, Nicki Pedersen, Greg Hancock, Tomasz Gollob All the best Rob
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Tom Farndon...the Greatest Speedway Rider Of Them All
lucifer sam replied to customhouseregular's topic in Years Gone By
Norbold, I thought it was whoever who was in front after the first lap, rather than the first bend? I can see the reason for such an agreement - to share the money, so that they don't kill each other squabbling over it. Although I think the prize of becoming World Champion is bigger than the cash prize. In any case, it certainly seems Langton thought was he duped by Van Praag. It doesn't take away from the fact that Van Praag was a true quality rider. All the best Rob -
Sid, I agree that Sanders at No 8 had me going "WHAT?" as well. He and John Louis are surely the first men on the team sheet. I largely agree with your choices, although I think I'd have Chris Louis ahead of Mark Loram. Loram had two spells at Ippo, but neither came during his prime. He'd be in my King's Lynn, Poole, Exeter and Eastbourne teams. I'd personally plump for: 1. John Louis 2. Dennis Sigalos 3. Billy Sanders 4. Tomasz Gollob 5. Tony Rickardsson 6. Chris Louis 7. Tony Davey (8. Mark Loram) Although if you also take Ipswich Mk 1 into contention, there's also Peter Moore All the best Rob
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Steve, mine had Mick Fletcher Favourite NL team (remember I was only really a fan from 1980, bit too young to remember to have 'favourites' from before then): 1. Dave Perks 2. Mick Fletcher 3. Derek Harrison 4. Nigel Sparshott 5. John Hack 6. Steve Crockett 7. Kevin Smart Best team: 1. Dave Perks 2. Derek Harrison 3. Martin Yeates 4. Les Rumsey 5. George Hunter 6. Colin Ackroyd 7. John Hack (8. Dave Shields) Of course, we had a very young Simon Cross as well... All the best Rob
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Mine for Oxford are: Favourite seven: 1. Hans Nielsen 2. Jens Rasmussen 3. Lawrence Hare 4. Craig Branney 5. Marvyn Cox 6. Mick Fletcher 7. Chris Mills Best seven: 1. Hans Nielsen 2. Marvyn Cox 3. Ron How 4. Arne Pander 5. Simon Wigg 6. Ronnie Genz 7. Todd Wiltshire Although you could have: 1. Hans Nielsen 2. Tony Rickardsson 3. Greg Hancock 4. Billy Hamill 5. Jason Crump 6. Nicki Pedersen 7. Simon Wigg (8. Leigh Adams) But for me, my 'best seven' is riders synonymous with the club, rather than just a list of World Champions who might have ridden for Oxford at some point. All the best Rob
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Can we have most 0-5s? I t might help identify the dirtiest riders in the league, who knock everyone else off? All the best Rob
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With a bit of creativity All the best Rob
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End Of Season Mdl Report
lucifer sam replied to Mimmo's topic in Youth Speedway and Development Leagues
Mimmo, hold on a minute, are you saying only one team out of 8 (Scunthorpe) completed their fixtures? All the best Rob -
Is that still about for riders who have competed in the NL within the last two years? If it does still exist, it would place JB on a 2.00 rather than 2.05. Not that it really makes any difference to Scunny's starting line-up. All the best Rob
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Sorry mate, I'm not biting. All the best Rob
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I think that happened twice in the 1980s. All the best Rob EDIT: Just checked the years. There were four Collins brothers on display in both the '83 and '85 British Finals.
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It's bizarre logic to add together the titles, even when most of the family hasn't won a bean! Otherwise, adding together World titles, the most successful family is the Nielsen family (22 FIM Gold Medals), even though brother Jens Henry never won anything, and as far as I know, the other two brothers never sat on a speedway bike! Steve Roberts has it right. It the Collins brothers. Four of them were international riders, three were World Finalists (including a World No 1 and a World No 2), and several with very long and distinguished league careers. I think Neil has the record for most British appearances (well over a thousand), and Les is second. PS Unfortunately the Longtrack title is nowhere as worthy as it used to be. The growth in the Polish league saw all the top riders pull out of the longtrack. There's no top riders in it these days. All the best Rob
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Dunno where you've got 3.68 from. Fritz's real average last season was 3.83. Due to the new minimum on foreign riders, that is marked up to 4.00 rather than 5.00. Likewise the new minimum on British riders is 2.00. So Josh Bailey keeps his real average of 2.05 from last season. I think you're confusing the 2016 Green Sheet averages (which take into account 2016 regulations), rather than the averages for team building for 2017, which would use the 2017 regulations. Scorpions' averages are listed here: http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=6514 Adds up to 39.32. All the best Rob
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How is 1st and 3rd better than 1st and 2nd? And PC has 10 FIM Gold Medals, compared to JC's 6. All the best Rob
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Even if you throw in Venus and Serena, the Collins brothers still have the edge. (Seriously through, one brother as World No 1 and another brother as World No 2 is the clincher ) All the best Rob
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Yes, that's my understanding. All the best Rob
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Those were the final Green Sheet averages for 2016, where the minimum was 5.00. For 2017 team building, the minimum is 4.00, so any Green Sheet averages are updated accordingly. So, yes, those other riders will be 4.00 as well. Likewise any foreign rider between 4.00 and 5.00 will have their true average, instead of being marked up to 5.00. All the best Rob
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2017 team news here: http://scunthorpescorpions.co/?p=6514 All the best Rob