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  1. Tony, could you ask Bruce how Heat 19 of the 1982 Overseas Final was supposed to finish? In the Penhall book by Steve Johnson, it is revealed that the other three riders were supposed to finish in a different order. But in which order? Because I can't see an order which would have allowed all 4 Americans to qualify without the need of a run-off (which Shawn Moran lost). All the best Rob
  2. No, as I explained before, the ref can award the postitions as of the time of the incident, as long as one rider crosses the line before the race is halted. That's three times I've explained it to you now. Read the FIM rulebook - it's all in there. All the best Rob
  3. I do remember that, but Gollob had already lost 20 points to Rickardsson in the previous two rounds in 1999 prior to his injury i.e. the momentum was already with Rickardsson. One of those rounds were at Bydgoszcz. Gollob had already blown it under pressure, even prior to his injury. And that's maybe where Gollob has changed for the better, because last night he regained that momentum. After a couple of dodgy rounds in which he struggled a bit, rode a bit dirty and lost him a lot of supporters (especially his move on Emil), last night he rode like a champion and did it without resorting to the tactics employed in the previous two rounds. I know think Gollob WILL be World Champion this season, up until last night I had doubts that he could hold on. All the best Rob
  4. TNT, I've already answered this elsewhere but I'll repeat it here: Races CAN be awarded - but ONLY if they are completed. Gollob had crossed the finishing line, so therefore the race could be awarded. Had Gollob not crossed the finishing line, there would have to be a re-run. The rules were set up like they are, an incident in the 1973 World Final, when Zenon Plech was leading a race which would have taken him into the run-off for first place with Szczakiel & Mauger, brough down by a Russian, and as Peter Collins crossed the finishing line, the race was awarded to Collins despite the fact Plech had been a street ahead of him until the Russian brought Plech down. These days, the referee can award the places as they were at the time of the incident, but only provided one or more of the riders finish the race. It's all in the FIM rulebook. All the best Rob
  5. TNT, I explained this after the last Grand Prix. Races CAN be awarded - but ONLY if they are completed. Gollob had crossed the finishing line, so therefore the race could be awarded. Had Gollob not crossed the finishing line, there would have to be a re-run. The rules were set up like they are, an incident in the 1973 World Final, when Zenon Plech was leading a race which would have taken him into the run-off for first place with Szczakiel & Mauger, brough down by a Russian, and as Peter Collins crossed the finishing line, the race was awarded to Collins despite the fact Plech had been a street ahead of him until the Russian brought Plech down. These days, the referee can award the places as they were at the time of the incident, but only provided one or more of the riders finish the race. All the best Rob
  6. Yes he has. In 1999, Gollob led Tony Rickardsson by 24 points with three rounds to go, 9 points with two rounds to go and 4 points with one round to go. The pressure got to him and he blew it. But I can't see him blowing it this time. That was a terrific performance from him tonight. All the best Rob
  7. Old team: 2 Tomasz GOLLOB 4 Greg HANCOCK 8 Kenneth BJERRE 10 Hans ANDERSEN 13 Jaroslaw HAMPEL Out: 8 Kenneth BJERRE Old Value £50,000 10 Hans ANDERSEN Od Value £40,000 13 Jaroslaw HAMPEL Old Value £50,000 In: 1 Jason CRUMP New Value £50,000 7 Rune HOLTA New Value £45,000 14 Chris HARRIS New Value £35,000 New team: 1 Jason CRUMP 2 Tomasz GOLLOB 4 Greg HANCOCK 7 Rune HOLTA 14 Chris HARRIS Crump as captain for Vojens please. Thanks Pete for running this competition. All the best Rob
  8. Pete, any chance that you help post the new prices for the second transfer window, so they anyone wanting to make changes can do so before tomorrow? Cheers mate. All the best Rob
  9. The cut-off for the play-offs in the NL does seem a tad too early. Surely given the recent weather, it would be make sense to extend it by a couple of weeks to allow the league table to be properly sorted out. After all, the play-off semis are not normally held until the first half of October in any case. All the best Rob
  10. How's that not letting things go? I was just making a comparison to another similar meeting. Maybe it's time to remove that chip from your shoulders. All the best Rob
  11. Blimey, that was a bit long-winded. Nearly four hours to stage 25 races - it nearly took as long as the infamous 2005 CL Pairs at Wimbledon. All the best Rob
  12. Parsloes, I filled in my first-ever programme during an Inter-League 4TT round at Oxford in 1980. I think it's the day I become a real fan of the Oxford Cheetahs - until then, it was somewhere my dad took me several times during the season. By the end of that season, I was a speedway maniac, something that hasn't been cured some 30 years later. The dominant rider on show that day as Mr. Gordon Kennett. Six rides, six wins (including two in the second half). I remember him pulling a huge wheelie as he won his final race. As a National League club, we didn't get to see wheelies, since it wasn't in fashion for the lower league riders to pull them. Most of the NL riders still had bikes stuck together by gaffer tape. I also remember a much larger crowd that usual than the NL meetings. Gordon Kennett, previously of the Oxford Rebels, was a big drawcard and he didn't disappoint. It's the second meeting I distinctly remember. The first was the Pip Lamb Benefit Meeting at the end of 1979, which was the first time I saw Bruce Penhall, a rider who became a hero to the young Lucifer Sam. However, I do have a keen interest in Speedway during the 1970s, for a long-time my collection of speedway books was mainly books on the 70s (in the 1980s, the number of speedway books dried up for a while), so the old Peter Oakes Speedway Yearbooks were picked up and read from cover-to-cover. It's why I feel qualified to comment on speedway in the 1970s in the same way I wouldn't on previous eras. All the best Rob
  13. But Gordon Kennett was the highest scorer in the 1977 British League, scoring 466 from 36 matches for White City. He was an ever-present, and led the Rebels to the league title. And Kennett was a stalwart to his team, but it just happened his team moved from Oxford to White City to Eastbourne. 13th is too low. He should be in the top ten - JB got that one wrong. All the best Rob
  14. Tony, I think the lack of reaction is maybe down to the fact that John Berry's selection was an uncontroversial one. Not quite sure how he managed to get Gordon Kennett as low as 13th though, he achieved more in the 1970s than the four riders above him (McMillan, Morton, and the Boococks), all of whom peaked outside the 1970s. I can't recall any of those riders finishing second in a World Final, as Gordon did in 1978. All the best Rob
  15. As a three-time World Champion already, I doubt if Crump considers that much of a "demon". Theoretically a rider could end up winning the World Championship seven times without once successfully defending it. On the other hand, Gollob will struggle to win it once, if he continues to let the pressure get to him, as he has in the last two GPs. He had a much bigger lead in 1999 with three rounds to go (including one to come at Bydgoszcz) and then managed to let that one slip. I can see history repeating itself. All the best Rob
  16. The "Rider Of The Night" second halves were rubbish - half the riders didn't bother, and those who did were testing machinery. Far better was the second half junior match from 1985 to 1992. Used to be some cracking racing in these. I once remember a lad called Daz Santos, who made a few appearances for the Oxford Cubs. He was a bit wild, once got his handlebar jammed in the fence, but kept going, and managed to rip down half the Oxford safety fence. Parsloes, straying from the subject, but I know you're a huge Buzz fan, so I would suggest getting a video of the Scunny vs Buxton match yesterday. Heats 13 & 15 are both classic Buzz, he came from 4th to 1st in Heat 13 whilst wearing the silly hat, and then won a photo-finish with Simon Lambert in Heat 15 after 4 of the best laps that you're ever likely to see. All the best Rob
  17. Two belting meetings at Scunny today. After a high-octane Scunny-Sheffield derby, the Buxton NL match threatened to be an anti-climax. Enter two riders at the opposite ends of the spectrum, Jason Garrity and Buzz Burrows to ensure that the meeting ended on a high. Garrity went from fourth to first in Heat 12, Buzz did the same as a tactical ride in Heat 13, then Buzz & Simon Lambert were involved in the mother of all battles in Heat 15, with Buzz snatching the verdict in a photo-finish. Great stuff - I was cheering the old geezer on. All the best Rob
  18. Just to clarify the rules in such a situation. It's true that a ref cannot award an FIM race if the four laps have not been completed, before the race has been stopped. However, if a race is completed, then the referee does have some powers in terms of awarding the race. If for example, the rider in second place crashed into the rider in firrt place on the final corner and they both fell, and then the riders in third and fourth crossed the line in first and second, then the referee can still award first place to the rider who was brought down, and then give second and third to the riders who actually crossed the line in first and second. The rules were set up like this after an imfamous incident in the 1973 World Final, which denied Zenon Plech a crack at the run-off for first place. Yesterday, as the rules stand, the referee could have excluded Gollob and awarded third place to Holta. As I said before, places can only be awarded for completed races, incompleted races must be re-run. It's all in the FIM rulebook. All the best Rob
  19. Greg Hancock: well done to the old fella. Seriously great stuff from Greg - he doesn't look like someone who is nearly finished with the Grand Prix series. Chris Harris: that's more like it. I hope he can carry on in that vain and get a top 8 place. Jason Crump: I reckon he'll end up the year with his fourth world title, as the pressure gets to his rivals. Tomasz Gollob: I wanted him to win this year, but after the last 2 rounds, I've changed my mind. Emil was in no fit state to deck him, but Rune should have done a Boycey. All the best Rob
  20. If King Emil is left out of the GP series, then I won't watch it. I don't think there is a chance that he wouldn't be given a place. Phil Rising, who is high up in FIM circles, more-or-less said in the Speedway Star last week that Emil will be given a seeded spot. All the best Rob
  21. Well, that's the point, isn't it? In Poland, the top riders are spread between two leagues, whereas in Sweden, they're all in one league. Have you seen Dackarna and Elit Vetlanda's teams. They have got to be the best two club sides in the world. All the best Rob
  22. Cheers. So two Brits in the top thirty - Richardson (14th) and Harris (17th). The other British riders are shocking though. All the best Rob
  23. But the Swedish Elite League has most of the good non-Poles as well, whereas a few of them are missing from the Polish scene. I don't think there's much in it, though. Sorry, haven't read every single post in this thread, didn't realise that the peformance of our riders in Sweden had already been brought up. All the best Rob
  24. Henry, do you have the positions for our riders in the Swedish Elite League averages? All the best Rob
  25. Authorised, it wasn't supposed to be a direct comparison, which is why I didn't provide 2010 averages, because they aren't that comparable. It was more to show how far we've fallen down the totem pole since 1977. You have to remember in 1977, that the British League WAS the best league in the world. The vast majority of top riders rode in this country, so if they were 11 Englishmen in the top 20 of the BL averages it also means that there were 11 Englishmen amonsgt the best 30 or so riders in the entire world. These days, it's the Swedish League which is the strongest, closely followed by Poland, with the British Elite League a poor third. Look at the top 30 riders in the Swedish League, and we might have one (Scott Nicholls). All the best Rob
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