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What a bloody mess! Makes you feel so proud to be a speedway fan. Almost went to this charade, so pleased I didn't make the effort!!!!!

If you fancy hearing and indeed asking Mick Horton what his thoughts are for the future of Brandon he is at the NSSC on Tuesday night. Everybody is welcome, £3 charge for non-members. All monies raised are used to support young British riders. http://www.nuneatonspeedwaysupportersclub.co.uk/

If you fancy hearing and indeed asking Mick Horton what his thoughts are for next year and beyond he is at the NSSC on Tuesday night. Everybody is welcome, £3 charge for non-members. All monies raised are used to support young British riders. http://www.nuneatonspeedwaysupportersclub.co.uk/

Why is there nothing about this on the Bees site? Don't they want to fight to stay at Brandon either.......or are we all off to Peterborough a la CCFC.

So if they are having to improve drainage and relay the track in Riga it wasn't just the weather that caused the cancelled GP as BSI wanted us to believe. Thank you for confirming that!

Fundraising all very well but how much do they need? What happens if the amount donated falls short of the desired level and they don't run the Storm next year. Do we get our money back? (Didn't think so!)

The Bees will never ride at the Ricoh or Wycombe Wanderers FC !? Think I'll have to go to the meeting at Binley Woods to see exactly what is going on as no one on here seems to know.

Went to Avesta last night for the Masarna v Lejonen 2nd leg of the final. Lejonens 16 point lead from the first leg was far too much for Masarna to cope with but it was a decent meeting on a nice wide track. As you would expect Lindbäck, Sundström, Berntzon and the two Poles lead the way but we were impressed by the Masarna reserve Ted Hagansbo. I don't know anything about him but thought he had a nice smooth style and not afraid to make strong moves or defend his position. We really enjoyed our visit and have another Swedish speedway T-shirt to add to the collection!

Too many youngsters were drafted in to fill the gaps which lead to quite a few mis-matched heats but all the riders tried their best and you can't ask for much more than that. There were a few very good heats and I was particularly impressed by Jack Kingston. I was also very impressed by the Sittingbourne stadium on my first visit. For facilities and viewing it must be one of the best in the country. I hope they can race at a higher level as they are striving to do.

Are the Allsvenskan finals the following Thursday and Friday? 18th & 19th September. We will only be an hour away from Avesta (Masarna) during that week so selfishly hope that they get to the final, if that's the case.

I would suggest that the fans who support the Storm meetings are the real core of Coventry's support. If this Elite league double header is completed after the recent 10:15 curfew then they are going to feel even more aggrieved/pissed off as there is obviously no such thing. The only reason for the curfew would have been to save points money resulting in annoying their keenest fans and I would have thought riders as well. Presumably some Plymouth riders only had 2 or 3 races, not a very fair way to treat the young kids.

Any chance of Coventry telling us what time the curfew will be this Friday well before the meeting, rather than making it up on the spot when it suits. Also how much will they charge and will we see 25 or 30 heats?

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Well. I moaned all the way there. I moaned to anyone who would listen before the meeting and then took my seat in the stand to witness one of the most entertaining and eventful meetings I've seen for a long time. Just shows what I know! Maybe it's best to try and ignore all the surrounding crap and just enjoy what those guys can do on the track. Bomber was at his very best and is a true spectacle in that frame of mind.

The last Storm double header was curtailed at 10:15 because of the "imaginary" curfew, coincidentally as soon as heat 10 was reached. (I wonder what time the curfew would have been if they were on heat 7 at 10:15?!). The previous Storm double header had a curfew at 10:45. Never heard of a curfew in all my years of going to Brandon. Another nail in the coffin. Another kick in the teeth for the fans. See the NL section for outraged fans reaction to the Storm double header curfew.

Tonight's farce sums up the sorry state of speedway in this country, the Elite league in particular and especially at Coventry. A late fixture change (for once not involving the weather) weakened and much changed teams and a very unusual night to boot #shambles I think tonights crowd will be the lowest of the season. I'm sure some would have preferred the £10 offer at the football, especially with the team returning to their rented home but it wouldn't have been hundreds. At 1:30 we still don't know the Bees team and Thursday nights are well proven at Coventry to be poorly supported. If Mick is serious about the play-offs why even contemplate moving the fixture when the team will be weaker for doing so. If I wasn't so heavily involved with the NSSC I would be one of many not bothering with this fixture. Something drastic needs to happen to Elite League speedway this winter. This is just not good enough. And another thing! Lets see how long it takes to complete tonight's meeting then multiply it by 2 add in a bit of a break in the middle and see if the Eastbourne double header will be completed by the new self imposed curfew of 10:15.

I look forward to reading the Star tomorrow then. The basic questions still remain and are; 1) was the track prepared properly with sufficient drainage and suitable material? 2) if the answer is yes and assuming the weather was too bad on Saturday, why not run it in Riga on Sunday. The weather was fine on Sunday, we were paddling in the Baltic! 3) if the answer is no, then who is to blame for the poor track preparation? We were there from Thursday. Yes there were some showers, some quite heavy, but nothing that should have completely ruined a suitable track. If that GP had been on a "normal-permanent" track it would have been fine for Sunday if Saturday proved to be too much.

There was a post on this forum (thank you whoever it was) at the time saying that you had to return to where you collected or purchased the tickets and complete & submit the form. Of course there has been no help at all from the SGP website other than, "you need to contact the ticket agency for a refund". Why couldn't they help fans by having a link to, or pdf of, the form on their site? As usual with the SGP's we are diverted to an obscure (to us) ticket agency. So obscure that Marks & Spencer's blocked the credit card transaction initially until they spoke to me! And as usual taking our money from a credit card is very quick and easy but they refused to refund against the card and we had to leave all our bank details and passport number on this form. We were told it would be in our bank within 10 working days, now on day 13. Anyway I have e-mailed Paul Bellamy about the delay and to be fair he replied very quickly and I have now been copied in, in an e-mail from Vladimir Ribnikov, "SGP Latvia Organiser" confirming that there had been a delay but 90% of tickets had been credited and, "be sure all tickets will be refunded". Another e-mail will be on the way to Paul Bellamy soon about the miss-management of this whole affair. From track prep right through to PR and customer support, but I want to get my refund first!

Has anybody received their refund yet? Like IanT we completed the form (with all our bank details and passport info!) and handed it in to the Bilesu offices on the Monday after the GP and were told it would be 10 working days. Assuming they don't have August bank holidays in Latvia the 10 days are up. Here we go.......

For those that didn't experience the shenanigans last night at the Storm meeting (see the NL section) I wonder if there is a special Sunday afternoon curfew????

Got to agree with Abbo. It is becoming increasingly hard work being a speedway fan, no wonder there are fewer of us there every week. We knew we were going to witness two one sided affairs with gulfs between the skills of the riders but like 300? others we went anyway to support the young lads. On handing over our £30 the guy at the turnstile did not even break conversation with one of the "guards" and the women selling programmes couldn't have been more miserable. It was such an underwhelming experience we both commented on it. How difficult is it to say "thank you, enjoy the meeting"...... basics! I thought the meetings were going along at a reasonable pace. It was a bit annoying that they couldn't do the track grading when there was an extra 2 mins for r/r but why would you expect common sense at a speedway meeting! Bearing in mind the previous "curfew" was 10:45 with 5 heats to go, no problem. The strange thing was it seemed to catch everybody by surprise. If there is a curfew tell the fans before hand then we all know what's going on. More to the point what would have happened if there had been more delays in the meeting and at 10:15 we were only at heat 7.....what time would the "curfew" had been then? As I said I went knowing we were not going to see many great races but feel robbed of not seeing Josh Bates against the Storm guys in heats 13 and presumably 15 for no real reason. Pissed off with it all and we are keen, the floating fans will not stand for it, and there is the problem. Speedway cannot survive on the enthusiasts alone. Those that go to speedway for a night out would not tolerate the crap that we put up with!

Where's this curfew come from? Never known it before at Coventry until these last two Storm double headers. And why is it so variable? I reckon last time it was 10:40 and tonight 10:15. Tonight's first meeting could not have run much smoother with only one re-start (I think). The second meeting had a bit of a hold up for repair to the air fence and possibly 3 re-starts but nothing catastrophic. So if there is a curfew at 10:15 they should start even earlier or not attempt it. They should not charge for two meetings if there's no chance of making it. Apart from feeling short changed I also feel sorry for the riders. I'm sure Josh Bates was dead chuffed to only get 3 rides, potentially missing out on another 6 points the way he was going. I hope nobody travelled from Plymouth to watch their team. It will be interesting to see how they handle the Eastbourne double header especially with the extra faffing about the Elite boys like to do. I'd also like to see them try to stop a stock car meeting at 10:15.

Translating a Danish tweet they think it will be a 30 or 40 day ban. If it is and he then falls beneath the GP cut off of 8th place will he just walk back in next year on a wildcard?

This win at all costs attitude is killing speedway. I know people who have stopped going purely for this reason. Why don't we just give Poole the League championship and make Darcy Ward the World Champion every year then we needn't bother about all the grief and controversy that gets us to that point.

Completely agree with IanT particularly about the quality of the track and the lack of responsibilty for its complete failure, very convenient for BSI to hide behind the weather. We are in the same boat regarding the refund and will give them until Monday before chasing. Like IanT I am incensed by BSI's total lack of sympathy or help for fans that support their product. Topaz325 says that fans get fobbed off but always return.......well we are not returning to the GP's. We have attended many over the years, there have been some dodgy ones like Berlin and Tampere and cancellations in Gothenburg, Gelsenkirchen and Riga. We have experienced them all and finally have had enough. When we go to a GP we make a 4/5 day holiday of it so at least we have enjoyed the host cities but for those that just fly in for the meeting it must be awful. BSI have proved many times now that they are incapable of overseeing or putting on a speedway event in a non speedway stadium except for Parken & Cardiff, however even these came perilously close to disaster in the last couple of years. Even Phil Rising said on this forum that Vojens is close to the new Horsens venue if there are any issues........and so it goes on. For me the whole BSI/SGP/Monster thing has just become too unpalatable. According to the official SGP site there is no news at all about Darcy Ward, not even a reason for missing the last GP! How can you take it seriously? And don't get me started on Monster Joe!! Anyway I don't think I'm brave enough for court action but letters and e-mails will be sent. Does anybody have a particularly good name or e-mail address, thanks.