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Two words. Dave Jessup.

And they used to drive along the outside of the queue in which you were waiting to make sure they got to the meeting on time whilst you were worried that you'd miss the start and there would be no programmes left.

Exactly Shoddy. People can talk as much as they like about it being fair/keeping the scores close etc. It's the sheer embarassment and credibility of the sport that is the real issue here as far as I am concerned. You can hide team building, guests etc. from first time spectators to a certain extent, but there's no hiding from this one.

Hi Jamie. If you keep your eye on this thread, there may well be some KC races coming up. Unfortunately there's nothing from The Shay or BV, but keep your eyes peeled for Kenny's British Final win with broken leg and his 1982 incident with Bruce Penall if you don't already have them.

Peter, The Golden Joker (I'm cringeing even writing the name of the damn thing) doesn't start from 15 yards back but from the tapes. To get his double points takes no extra effort whatsoever.

One for the connoisseurs, this one!

Yeah, pretty good decision in my book. Good on 'em I say. Gawd bless 'em.

I am completely horrified that they are doing this, though not completetly surprised as I felt a pang of fear last year after reading in Speedway Star how 'delighted' they were with it's 'success'. It's unbelievable. Did they not notice the groans that went through the crowds whenever it was used? I just can't see any reason why they think it is a good idea. For a while there I was quite tempted to pop over to Swindon a few times to have a look at the EL Robins, but my enthusiasm has rapidly taken a dive again. I really am pissed off about this. It's idiocy like this that dampened my enthusiasm for speedway in the first place and they've done it again. Will someone point the fools in charge in the direction of this thread so they can see what people really think, or do they not care? How can you explain this one to a first time supporter? I think I saw two matches last year where this was used, and in one of them I had the wrong score for a couple of races having missed the announcement. These were two leg matches where the ONLY justification I could think of was that at least it evened out over two legs. Now we're talking about league points I can't even use that excuse on myself. Has this been approved after consulting a few dumb team managers without the brain power to work out good tactical moves? Tactical substitutes were always a bit of an odd one, but at least it was fun looking through a programme and trying to pre-empt tactical moves and use a bit of tactical thinking. Now it's just 'ooops. 8 down, double the points'. I hate this decision. Oh God, somebody call me a doctor. (Posts of 'You're a doctor' will be summararily ignored). Aaaaaaargghhhh!!

Bobby Ott I reckon. Don't see any Martin Ashby there though.

It's a true classic isn't it! I was at that meeting and had a good seat near the front on the back straight. I can still remember the pair of them flying past me dead level on the last lap. Phenomenal. If only all World Finals could have been like that night, but really that was probably the last of the great one-offs - either that or 1982.

What, that actual race or one with those two in it?

This time, in honour of Bruce Penhall's decision to ride again, is his race against Tommy Knudsen in the 1981 World Final.

I went to Perry Barr once and I shall remember it mainly as the first time I saw Shawn McConnell ride. I think Hans Neilsen was in the Brummies side at that time as well.

Here is an anti climax.

Although Gordeev touched the tapes, if you look he's actually the only one not moving when they go up, the other 3 all got rollers. Very messy.

Just take a look at THIS amazing clip!!

I've done another one, but I've used the same filename so this thread is effectively obselete now!

Great race isn't it Falcace. I'll do some more some time, though not sure they'll be that good! RE your question - see here: http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forum/view...opic.php?t=5230

I remember Rudy Mutts being signed by Swindon at one stage, but never actually riding for the Robins. I think it was a classic bad Swindon transfer move with Rudy & Alf Busk coming and Steve Bastable moving on. Maybe someone (Frigbo?) can remember more details than me. There are some pictures of Rudy Mutts in the 70s section of the Wimbledon website. And Larry Ross! http://www.wimbledonspeedway.co.uk/1970's_...s__part_two.htm

If there's going to be a points limit, the logical figure is 42 NOT including bonus points. A points limit of 40 is just ridiculous. It looks like nothing more than strugling teams looking for a chance to get up the league a bit without making much effort. Also, a 40 limit (including bonus points presumably) is going to put riders out of work because they can't be fitted into the teams. Then, when all the averages go up the following year, more riders will be out of work. A side effect of this will also be more 'old hands' going into the Conference League because they can't get a team place, thus causing youngsters to struggle for places in that league. Given a choice of the two it has to be 45.

Cheers Sir L - or, Kanpai, as they say in Japan. OK - Take 2. You should be able to get the whole race now. (Well, I've got to do something while the missus is asleep).

I think what happened is the website host I was using didn't actually FTP uploading of files and doesn't accept video, so, having done it once it has blocked it. I've upgraded to one that allows it so, hopefully, I can get it to work, but it takes a day or so for the upgrade to come into effect. On top of that my wife is having our baby induced this afternoon (just another small matter that might slow matters down!!) The file is 13,290KB. Zip file is 13,048KB. Hardly worth the effort was it!

'Get out of my way son, I'm coming through'... lol

That's the thing - you didn't. The end is the best bit! To be continued........

Thanks Markone. I think the end got chopped off by the website host. Back to the drawing board!