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Wow. Amazing final. Amazing result. Speedway at its best.

I feel Troy's pain there. Ouch.

Swindon have signed Dan Greenwood to replace Darryl Ritchings. Such a shame for Darryl, who was really keen to be in the Robins side. Yeah. Been to many of those all round the country in the past.

Not so big really. sure, if you look at the exact turn of events they are not exactly the same, but it's the same principle. The meeting continued in conditions that should have seen the meeting abandoned so that a result could be obtained. #justorating Not so relevant.

Remember how Coventry fans accused Poole of being cheats because they wanted to ride heat 10 at Belle Vue so that they would get a result? Just sayin'......

British speedway wouldn't help out Nick Morris either so they lost him to Australia. So we could have had two talents young riders in our side but we alienated them both. Maybe it's not just down to the riders.

Joe Owen was always the king of the NL. I remember it was a big deal to sign the top NL rider to join you in the British League. I can think of a couple of times we did it at Swindon. Signing Andrew Silver was a revelation. He may not have grown into the very top international rider that he could have, but in terms of entertainment, style and sheer coolness he was one of our best ever. Mike Ferriera was another, who was top of the NL averages, but never quite lived up to what was expected of him once we signed him.

Looks like this will also now be for the Elite Shield.

As already pointed out, this is totally open to abuse within the rules. we have heatleaders who could be averaging 5 points due to the race format. Then we have second strings who could be averaging 6 for the same reason. Consequently, you'll get injured riders of second string standard being replaced by heat leader standard riders with a lower average. It should be a guest for number ones and number ones only.

Thanks for that. I've updated the clip to Youtube. hope you don't mind. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CBV85829lY&feature=youtu.be That clip is actually not as conclusive as the original footage. From that it looks like there is no contact, but it is in slow motion and you can't see the bump when Penhall takes his handlebars. Good to find it at last though.

They hsve said they will stop ALL immigration for 5 years. So I guess that would include Australian speedway riders and Polish track men.

As I said before. The contact was there and can be seen on the same view as originally shown on itv. It was Penhal's back wheel and Carter's left handlebar. And it was that which made Carter fall. those who say there was no contact just haven't seen it yet.

Probably just fancied giving one of their assets, who has been injured, a chance to have a ride. I'm sure Swindon have no problem with it either or it wouldn't be happening.

Which means it's just a challenge match.

So play that version then. That's the Heart fm thing that they like to do - play original versions of songs that have been recently covered.

Funny thing is i'd say the first song is more suitable.

Very true. Another issue that needs sorting out.

Why the talk of people in the 50+ bracket wanting old fashioned presentation? I'm over 50. If asked I'd probably say that my favourite band of all time is Rush. I remember at school I had a period when I was in to Emerson Lake and Palmer. So do I think they should play ELP and Rush at speedway meetings? Hell no! The music needs to be current. Dj mixes or even just current chart music. Not rock or heavy metal. It's too intrusive. When I attended in the 70s the music was current. Now, 40 years on, sometimes it feels like they play the same stuff, but it's now 40 years old. If that includes, say, black music that some folk don't like, that's too bad. Who knows. You might get some more black people in if the music suits them. Just keep it modern. It's so important. Even if it's only subconciously, it has an effect.

The music should be up tempo modern dance music. It keeps an atmosphere going, and even the older generation can be seen tapping their feet and swaying from side to side with their hands in their anorak pockets when it's on. And, as someone else said, for heaven's sake put the phone to the ref back by the start line and get rid of this rubbish that only a team manager can talk to the ref. If one of the opposition is excluded he should be running across the centre green, arguing with the ref in full view of the crowd, and getting booed by the opposition supporters. Goes without saying.

That's a start anyway! At least we know which one is in the evening now.

OK, it's probably a bit early doors to start this but does anyone have any idea about what time these meetings start. As they are the same two sides riding home and away fixtures on the same day I'm guessing they are not both at 7.30pm. It would be nice to know. By the way, the cheating Pirates are a cheating bunch and Swindon will win blah blah blah.

If he is applying for British Citizenship and taking the Life in the UK test then fine. Only if he becomes properly British though. I wouldn't agree with it if it's just down to racing licences.

I must admit, the more of this thread i read, the more sympathy I have with the protesting family as it's clear a lot of speedway folk don't give a toss if they upset other people.

Don't you see? That is precisely the type of attitude thst gets tracks shut down.

I don't know the ins ad outs of everything, but the couple involved are saying noise was going on at the stadium until 3am, and they tried to solve it amicably but couldn't. So, if that is how it was then maybe you have to have some sympathy with them as there may be more to this than just speedway noise.