Grachan

Funny how, for years, PL clubs (ie the lower league) got priority and the rules were apparently fine. Now the league in which a rider is an asset gets priority and the rules are all wrong just because the lower league can't mess up the EL any more. It was always crazy that the lower league had priority over the higher one.

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Soldier Boy would, no doubt, be a pretty noisy fan of this lot.

No place for Rene Aas? Very disappointing.

It would probably just end up as a discussion on grammar.

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I have made that same point myself in the past. Resort to the old format and all of a sudden you have a 10 pointer in every side. Which also means every team has a full on number one who has an air of invincibility and can be a real hero for the fans. In a way I think the current format makes the league seem weaker. You can see comments quite regularly where people complain it is a weak league because there are no real heatleaders any more. Revert to the old format and suddenly you've got them.

It wasn't so long ago that Sweden and Poland weren't in the EU and their riders had to have just that. I remember Jimmy Nilsen and Per Jonsson struggling to get work permits at the start of their British careers.

What about Thierry Hillaire?

Nobody likes a smart arse, you know! Anyway, I'm off to have some pork chops from my Greg Hancock Lean Mean Grilling Machine!

Maybe, but I certainly would put the likes of Crump and Rickardsson above Woffinden and Kasprzak in the lists of all time greats. You could, of course, also argue that George Foreman mastered the art of pacing himself in his 40s, which he hadn't managed in his youth. Yup. George Foreman. That's who he is!

Greg Hancock, for me, is the George Foreman of speedway. A World Champion in his youth, but over shadowed by an all-time great. Then became a World champion in his forties in a different era, proving that the earlier era was stronger.

Yes. But he wasn't as fast.

Incorrect :-) The letter h is a consonant. When a word begins with a hard consonant sound you would use 'a', not 'an'. So it is 'a hotel'. If the h is silent, eg with the word 'hour', you would then use 'an'. A hotel. An hour. I went to a Grammar school. I know this stuff!!

In which case, the 4.00 average is way too low as everybody averaged over that.

It does if you apply to be come a resident in the uk. But he'd need to set up home here.

I don't know anything about the State Final. It was a response to a comment on averages, which stated he had an verage over 4 in the EL but below 7 in the PL. Based on that, he would presumably be eligible for the EL but not the PL. If he qualifies for a visa via a State final then fair enough, but that's not what I was responding to.

Only if he rides in the EL presumably, in that case. He would be ineligible for the PL possibly? Surely the EL figure of 4.00 is too low. You only need to be better than an NL rider to achieve that on the current format. EL figure should be around 5.50 or 6.00.

That was Dag. Maybe Old Fluffass was too, but Dag was the real king of the wet track. My knowledge on pre 1974 Norwegians is pretty sparse, but surely Dag Lovaas would be better than 7th??

An hotel is incorrect. It's "a hotel". It's one of those things that has crept into modern speak, and has become common. But it is not correct. File alongside "should of".

I've said that myself in the past, that Phil Crump should have been World Champion in 1975 and held back the 4 valve. Phil Crump was phenomenol, but lacked the killer instinct in World Championships. I remember a Speedway Star article in about 1982 saying he was the best rider in the World. Yet in World Finals he never really did the businiess, particularly in the 1980s. But this is abut a team event, and I'd put him about Ward, and even Holder in that respect.

How can it be a topic of SOUTH Arfica only, when the original poster had riders from other parts of Africa in his team? Mike Ferriera was certainly from Zimbabwe/Rhodesia.

Indeed. The same in 1976 with Egon Muller.

To be fair, they are trying to promote the sport on their websites and it's best to put as positive a slant on things as they can. I certainly would if it was me.