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Bellago in on 7.63. This really is Premier League now isn't it!

Ayers is 3.70 or thereabouts.

Please go away. Please. Pretty please.

Rye House still doing just fine then.

Not so convinced by the signing of Watt - although he should be capable enough at this level. Does this rule out Eddie Kennett?

The year before last Nick looked so good, but he wet downhill this year. If Nick can regain form then he'd be a good second heatleader but it is a risk. Adam Ellis as third heatleader has alarm bells ringing for me, but I don't know enough to form an informed opinion. Last year at Swindon he scored 1 from 3 riding in Poole's top 5. And his 1 point was because someone was excluded.

If you read Speedway Star it says averages between 2 and 3 stay as they are. Averages below 2 stay at 2.00.

Great stuff from Rye House. I'm jealous! Was hoping Bomber would be at Swindon until signing Ellis ruled him out.

He probably wants to ride for Swindon and has been told it might be difficult to fit him in.

Admittedly you lose that possibility, but you have to weigh up the risk with others and averages will fall. It's inevitable in a 50 point league. Having Doyle may well work against Swindon in terms of team strength overall, but personally I'm relieved he is staying. I wish Poole had hung on to Holder too. I understand why they never but I hope he stays in the league. We need to keep these riders if we can. Hopefully, long term, Swindon will benefit from this in Doyle getting a real average for next year (2018). I won't hold my breath though.

It says a lot about next year when the probable Poole team is seen as strong. I think Swindon may struggle with Ellis on nearly 8. We are even seeing Nielsen as a possible top 5 rider. This is, effectively, Premier League. I just hope having Jason in the side helps to keep crowd levels up although he doesnt yet have the longevity at the club that Leigh had.

As an example, you had Tungate in your probable team. Tungate averaged 6.05 in the top league last year. He rides next year on an average of 9.03. Yet 6.05 x 1.4 is 8.47. On paper, Tungate on 9.03 is a worse signing than Doyle.

I think you missed my point. What I meant was that, in theory, everybody is going to drop their averages. Everyone is focusing on Doyle because he is over 12 but is no more highly assessed than anybody else who only rode EL last year. With a points limit of 50 the averages are all going to drop barring massive improvers. My comment about having an average of 42 was sarcasm - aka the lowest form of wit.

In that case it is absolutely pointless putting a team together up to the 50 limit as it is only going to drop that average. Much better to put a team together with an average of 42.

Good to see this from Rye House. It shows intent to sign him now rather than just hanging around to see what's left.

I assume that post had a lot of likes because people misguidedly believed you were showing concern for Ricky Ashworth. Personally I feel you cynically use Ricky's situation to have a dig at Darcy Ward. Your posts are an insult to both riders. That is why I feel it is time you stopped.

Maybe you should give your little crusade a rest now before you become totally offensive. I think everyone's had enough.

If a 13.41 is disproportionate for a rider then so is 50 for a team. People are getting hung up on a rider being on an average he cannot sustain but the entire team is on an average it won't sustain barring a complete domination from one side. Doyle and Holder's averages make just as much sense as anyone else's. They are too good for the PREMIER league and the averages indicate that. That is why the top league points limit is so high. The averages make complete sense and so does having Doyle in the Swindon side.

It's a decent signing, although rules out Bomber Harris who I was hoping for. Looks like Nick Morris as second heatleader now. Adam's average seems high, but when you think that Charles Wright is on six and a half and Stefan Nielsen on five and a half it seems about right. It just takes a bit of getting used to being on PL equivilant figures.

Fingers crossed it will all start today.

Twitter is a strange thing! First time I saw this I was convinced he was having a go at Poole - saying that he would not be at Poole because they had droped Chris Holder. Then later, I realised it probably meant that times have changed and that neither of them are at Poole any longer. But it could be read either way.

Thank Christ for that!

So you think Doyle has half a chance of getting a real average of about 13.41 next year? Glad to hear it.

Very true. Although, if going on PL averages, there needs to be some form of getting a conversion. At least that way everyone has one average for either league.

Thanks. Yeah I know it's the PL format - I just don't know what that is off hand. So number ones meet 3 times assuming they ride in heat 15.