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Truest post yet...

While I agree with you regarding the change from 20 heats, 1951 IS relevant to the conversation. Bob is questioning how Mark Loram could win the title without winning a GP. I made the point that the winner was decided on points total, not meetings won. I further elaborated by stating that the old World Final was also decided by points total, and not on races won. Although it didn't happen, it was possible for rider to win the World Championship without winning a race...

Totally irrelevant, Bob. With any simple points accumulating system, it is all about that - who gathers the most points, not who wins the most meetings. Same with F1, and most motorsports. If a guy finishes second in every meeting, and gets the most points, he deserves to win. Look at league racing in speedway. Your team may win 12 of the 13 races, and still lose... EDIT : Jack Biggs won more races than anyone else at the 1951 World Final - and finished third...

You sound exactly like me...

Don't know what you're laughing at, jrs; I'm sure Zmarzlik could do it!!!

We've had missing footrests and missing seats in recent weeks. I'm waiting to see someone ride with missing handlebars...

Makes it interesting for the last couple of places... Doyley does it way too often.

Yeah, Woffy is finished...

The surface was really wet last night, but it is so much better today. Yeah, Robert really had some speed there! Could be a tight battle for the semis...

Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder!!!

It's not being soaked like it was last night...

The trouble is that people always throw great ideas about - that just aren't feasible. The ONLY chance that would ever work is to go back to handicaps - and realistic handicaps at that. The sad thing is that we have now got into such a position that there are no simple answers...

Well, quite! Great ride from Rob! Seems like a few of the riders haven't got their setups right yet...

What the hell is Zmarzlik on???

I know, but it's just funny how we have things stored away in the back of our minds! As I said, I never had any dealings with Derrick, but I remembered something like that from years ago...

That is so weird... I'd forgotten all about Derrick and his ads (I never bought anything from him). As soon as I saw his name here, Saxmundham was the first thing that came to my mind!

Remember, this thread isn't just about finding fathers and sons - there are many who haven't been mentioned. The original question asked if there were any cases of three fathers (at the same time) and each of their sons, riding for the same team.

That's probably why they did it, then!

I don't want to hijack the thread or anything, but are there any other cases of FOUR generations involved in British speedway?

Same with the Dugards at Eastbourne, and (slightly differently) Neil Street and the Crumps at Swindon.

Correct, but Martin and Paul didn't. As I said, it's a struggle finding three dads in the same team!

Thing is, Steve isn't talking about brothers.

I didn't know about Bob's grandson, and I don't know about Roy's boy, but you could be right...

I'm having trouble finding three fathers who even rode in the same team, let alone have sons that rode for that team! I have Reg Luckurst, Trevor Hedge, and Bob Dugard, but I'm still looking...

He'll just have to time his rides...