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Again, not speedway, but what about Lew Coffin? Steve

Sorry mate, I have to agree with speedyguy on this one; Jason is Phil's son, but Phil isn't Neil's son. Of course, another "three-generation" family would be the Dugards, but I really don't think anyone was around THAT long! Steve

I never knew Graham Miles was 6'4"!!! Steve

Please don't start Bob off again... Steve

Not that I'd heard any rumours, but that's good to know. Dennis was always one of my favourite Americans. So, has he given up on the speedboating? Steve

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Me too... I remember the Daily Mirror dropping through the letterbox that morning; I used to read it before I went to school. I picked up the paper and saw the headline, "Speed star killed"... Steve

Neither, Bob. Although Eddie finished 1969 topping the Oxford averages, Colin Gooddy was non-riding reserve for the BLRC. Also, as far as I can see, he never even qualified for a British Semi-Final, let alone the Final itself. Steve

After that great year at Oxford in 1969, he never came close to repeating anything like that form. He actually spent two years at Hackney before joining the Stars, but struggled badly at both tracks. Finally, he made 6 appearances for Boston in 1978, but could only average just over 2 points a meeting. Steve

I agree, but most on here have a much greater knowledge of - and interest in - what has gone on in the UK over the years. Plus, we have greater access to "official" records, not that they are always 100% accurate... That's great, and I'm sure there are riders in Russia, Finland, Hungary, the old East Germany, and even the US that can claim to be "one-track" riders. However, the constant tweaking of leagues in the UK has, no doubt, had a massive impact on where riders end up; moreso than in most countries. Steve

This is now the problem. Guest appearances aren't - or shouldn't be - included in official figures, yet Moggo comes on here and claims that some of his so-called "official" appearances were simply guest rides. Now, you say the same with Buzz. That throws new doubt on some of the infrequent appearances in a number of cases. Steve

Firstly, I don't think that it's pedantic to explore this topic properly; it is a genuine, and very interesting question. However, I think that it is a little pedantic to criticise Bob for an obvious typo (we all knew what it meant), particularly when you post a statement such as, "if your going to be so pedantic about it all". With your knowledge, Jim, I'm sure that you can really be of assistance on a thread like this, so it would be nice if we could all concentrate on the subject in hand. Steve

No-one's questioning the right of a rider to merit a testimonial, and neither are we trying to discover who spent 15 years with one club; unfortunately the title of the thread here IS everything. We are just trying to discover those few individuals who spent their entire career (or British career, at least) with just one club. Everyone has to start somewhere, but again, we are not necessarily discussing riders who were "going all the way to the top". There have been some who started out in the lower leagues, and never progressed beyond that, and there are those (like Kelvin Tatum, Andy Smith, and many foreigners) who started out in the top tier. Steve

Sorry Jim, but I'm not. As has been stated, he appeared for Sheffield in 1950. Anyway, you're up late tonight! Steve

Absolutely correct, Jim. I just had the feeling that he'd ridden for at least one other Northern club. Steve

Naturally, but that's not really what this thread is about. If Ronnie Moore and Ron Johnston can be discounted - much as we would like to remember them as one-track riders - then PC has to go too. Sorry, Jim. Steve

Actually, if you go back to frigbo's post - "Glasgow and Exeter at home, last two League Meetings." - that would appear to clear it up. Steve

For some reason, I have this niggling doubt about Ron Johnston; I just seem to recall him riding for someone else. No problem. It's not so much that, but you do you realis how many riders would be eligible if we included all time-spans? Riders like Josef Kafel, Jan Puk, Wieslaw Patynek, Alf Jonsson, Leif Soderberg, Keith Chrisco, Rauli Makinen, Stefan Kwoczala, Walter Grubmuller, Buddy Robinson, Antti Pajari, and even the much-maligned Timmy Joe Shepherd! Good call. Steve

Ta muchly... Steve

Okay, is there anyone out there who can solve this puzzle? Steve

Brian was one of my first thoughts, but he also rode a number of matches for White City in '76 and '77. Steve

I had already thought of Hans, but it was for less than two full seasons. As we said, there will be a bunch of riders whose British career spanned no more than two years, who would qualify. After all, while you're at it, you could include Tony Briggs, Denny Pyeatt, and Pierre Brannefors. That also opens the door for Brad Oxley, Mats Olsson, Jan Henningsen etc... Steve

According to "The Complete History of the British League", he also appeared twice in 1986. Steve

Was Brian Andersen anything other than a Bee? Steve

Doing fine thanks, Bob, although it is Cahokia with a 'C'! Geoff Mudge also rode for Reading and Newport. A couple of possibles for four years (which seems pretty good at the moment) are Crayford are Jack Bibby and Richard Davey. I'm also thinking that Chris Chaplin spent all his time (four years again) at Rye? Steve