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We also need to allow the younger voter. After all, they are the ones most affected...

And that's unusual on the BSF???

Leave him alone; he's on a "roll". You don't "knead" to ridicule him, he just wants a "slice" of the action.

So, are we blaming Poole for killing Bullseye now???

acesofww2.com/can/aces/pepper.htm Rode for Newcastle, and lost his life during a test flight... Edit: not sure about the problem with the URL, but you can Google him.

There's another one. And he buried his speedway gear to protect it!

It would be nice to put together a collection of the wartime exploits of speedway riders. George Pepper is still probably the best example.

You are not getting too old. Yes, I am defending you... What it comes down to is that you need to read (properly) what is posted. Don't worry, there are a lot of people younger than you who don't do that either...

Colin and Fred Caffrey Sid and Mick Sheldrick

You still have a problem with people using a free and legal service that is specifically designed for them? You really do have issues, don't you? I am a "fine one to talk about loyalty", because I found a woman to love, and wanted to spend my life with? You have a problem with people marrying outside of their nationality? So, you're a racist and xenophobe too! The f*cking money I have spent on speedway over the years, attending meetings, buying merchandise, providing sponsorships, contributing to programmes, magazines, and websites (all for free), organising and participating in fundraisers for riders, and you have the balls to keep whining like a 6-year-old? Finally, on my visits back to the UK, whenever they have been during the speedway season, I have always tried to take in as many meetings as I can - and have been happy to pay for them! You can't (or won't) even cross the road to do that...

Besides, why is it okay for you to insult others, but you don't like it when others respond in a similar vein? Before you act all innocent, I know of two specific examples off the top of my head. 1) You think I am basically a criminal because I watch the GP's via the LEGAL stream provided by the organisers just for people like me who don't live in the UK. 2) You had the audacity to call speedway fans who still enjoy watching the sport "insane". Really? You are the only "sane" one on here because you don't like speedway, and refuse to support it? You really think spending your time on a forum for a sport you don't like, trying to persuade others not to like it, and questioning their judgement when they refuse to agree with you, is the definition of "sanity"?

Does it matter? Certainly doesn't matter to you, does it?

Not strictly true. He must have "some" interest, as he keeps it on in the background...

Then leave it where it is, and go and find something else to whine about... Is it REALLY insane that people get enjoyment out of something that you don't?

Your first sentence echoes what I said recently, that the East End hasn't been "British" for over 100 years. Your second paragraph describes modern times here in the U.S.

As we are seemingly just running through a list speedway brothers, how about these? Johns (Alan, Roger, Peter) Chalcraft (Catl, Gary) Chessell (Gary, Mark, Martin) Bass (Chris, Phil, Steve) Baldwin (Carl, Mark) Maxted (Brian, Peter) Dugard (Bob, Eric, John) Woods (Gene, Rick) Gavros (Dennis, Jimmy) Humphreys (Gordon, Ian)

It was "Killmeyer"...

Don't feel bad; I catch myself doing that too, occasionally!

Hmmmm... I prefer posting on my computer (it's easier for me to see!), but I have no problem using them on my phone. I just click on the one I want, and it posts it without issue. I would say it's more likely to be something in the forum settings than on your phone, but I couldn't swear to it. Hey, just had a thought! You are not trying to enter emojis directly from your keyboard (rather than from the bar above your post), are you?

Have you ever considered using emojis like many of us do to clarify our intent?

FINALLY! An obituary for Split Waterman has been posted on The Telegraph website; it has been posted within the last few hours. You can find it at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/obituaries/ Steve

You spying on Catholics now? That's creepy...

But what size was the track?

And it's the GP rider who scores most points at the end of the year who is crowned World Champ. Pretty simple, eh? I am not 100% convinced about the way an individual GP winner is chosen, but the fact that it doesn't actually affect the overall standings is fine with me. It is not just BSI who are questioning it though. You yourself stated that it's "more getting them to buy into the credibility of seeing a rider crowned GP winner but only being 3rd or 4th in the scorechart". That was one of the reasons I said what I did, as you used the "c" word! Thing is, it's amazing how many organizing bodies and companies mess with stuff that seems to work. It just seems like they want to be "doing something" rather than sitting back and letting things work. I did voice my opinion a while back (somewhat in line with your "neither one thing or the other comment"), but it certainly wasn't a major issue for me. I don't really see the point of semis and a final which can lead to lopsided scoring, but most seem to prefer it it for excitement. However, I do feel that overall, it is the best system we have ever had when it comes to deciding a speedway world champion.

What I really don't get is that so many speedway are interested in just one thing - credibility. More than that, they try to use every possible situation and anomaly - however meaningless and insignificant - to shout to the just how flawed it is. When it isn't... Every sport and/or sporting event will throw up sone sort of anomaly. Nothing is perfect, but the thing these armchair critics forget (or more likely refuse to believe) is that the old world final system was far more flawed and less credible than the GP system we currently have. Guess what? Speedway is unique. Accept it and move on. Uniqueness and peculiarities litter every other sport too. How many football fans were complaining about Liverpool being the best in Europe last year - when they weren't even the best in England? Probably only those on the BSF... In a tennis match recently, one player lost despite having won several more games than his opponent. How appalling... In darts, a player can be crushed by an opponent without winning a leg, yet finish with a much higher average. Talk about a flawed system... In cricket, how disgusting that a team could be losing by a mountain of runs, yet they can still just play out for a draw. Talk about a lack of credibility...