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Of course, even a couple of points there would have helped, but there's no need to panic quite yet.

No. You will see a lot that use the same thumbnail, but look at the number of people watching. If there are a lot, then that SHOULD take you straight to Nigel and Kelvin! I just PM'd you...

Go to YouTube. I don't have the actual link (I have it streaming on my phone), but there are several.

Not a great start, but a three-time World Champ shouldn't feel too much pressure needing 9 points (maybe 8) from four rides... With the new system, this shouldn't hurt him...

Of course, I know that some race formats were more likely to have that happen, but the BL 13-heat format (with Heat 2 as the reserves race) made it much more difficult. I did find a BSF post from a few years back where somebody stated that it was "impossible" to have that post-1968. However, it wasn't impossible, but it was impossible for the three heat-leader positions (it could happen with positions 2, 3, and 4). Obviously, I don't want anyone to devote their lives to looking for stuff like this to help me (not that old-time speedway fans like us have a life ), but I certainly appreciate everybody's efforts!

That is great! I saw that Vitaly now lived here; I think he moved to California, or somewhere on the west coast. My father witnessed his terrible accident.

That's why I thought John Boulger's 21-point max against Reading in 1976 was so good; he scored over half the points for the winning team!

That's ridiculous! Says it all, really...

Excellent! So we started with Nigel Boocock and 16 from 24. Now Steve Lawson has it with 16 from 23. Any advance on that? I know that on their travels, Steve really was a "one-man team" on many occasions.

You're on your Jack Jones here, mate!!!

You know, this stuff is exactly why we love the BSF!

That Glasgow - Long Eaton match you mentioned; both Bruce Ovenden and Graham Coombes score 8 + 4! I'm sure THAT is the only time that's happened - three 12's and two 8 + 4...

So that was a 14-heater, I take it? Of course, 14-16 heat matches give a few more options, but that is still great! More importantly, that is probably the only time that an away team has achieved that!

Over the years, I would think that three would be the normal (though unlikely) minimum for a 13-heat match (without any crazy situations). The only other possibility is if you had a 21-point maximum and an 18-point maximum in the same match, and i really how feasible that is (if at all). Of course, I'm sure that our good friend BL65 would have said something!

I did mention that in the initial post, Steve!

I figured; thanks. I don't suppose you have any idea what it said years ago?

Interesting... Wonder if anyone on here knows the answer?

It's what happens when you are a fraud...

Obviously, the lower the team score, the easier it is for that to happen. It's those draws that impress me!

Not just from the early 1960' s, John; Trofimov had a successful career well into the 70's. I always felt that while he never quite reached the level of some of the other Russians, he was actually a much better - and much more complete - rider than most. So, do you remember any of the other Russians from the 60's, like Boris Samorodov, Yuri Chekranov, Gab Kadirov, and Vitaly Shilo?

Thanks; I knew you'd have an answer! I think you need to publish a book with all these quirky stats!

As far as I know, they are banned "until further notice"; there haven't been any statements to the contrary (at least not visible statements).

Water's unhealthy for you in excess...

What "kind of thinking", and what SHOULD we be thinking?

Is/was that illegal, or is that not covered specifically? Is there something in the rules about additives - and would water be considered an "additive"?