The Third Man

so its not skillful to ride a bike on a big track?? its jsut as skillful to ride a big SPEED way track as a small speedway track, justv a different sort of skill,

Bengt Larsson was quite tall, mind anyone stood next to billy bales looked tall

Remember rick from what was probably the best ever sheffield team in 1973, great entertainer

Agree, we cant airbrush him from history because that would be devalueing history, what he did on and off track need to remembered

the connection with billy sanders is what they are on about and as they have said enough said and change the subject

have some more somewhere see if i can find it

Team from 22/06/1969 v kings lynn starlets Geoff Ambrose Alan Bridgett Guy Hawkes (sheffield) derek timms George davenport Stuart Ulph (Sheffield) Neil Glover (nothing to do with the Sheffield Glovers) with doug wyer one of the 2nd half riders, Doncaster won 40 - 36 with a 5-0 in the last race. promoters mike parker and bill bridgett Team from 13th September 1970 v berwick Gordon McGregor Ian Wilson Chris Harrison Dennis Wasden (Sheffield) George major Hec haslinger Cliff Emms doncaster won 48-30 Riding numer 6 for berwick doug wyer with 7 points from 3 completed rides. one of the promoters was john berry clerk of the course one wilf jay (another sheffield connection) track record george major 69.0 track 350yds george major won the last meeting, the ronnie cliffe trophy with a 15point maximum, the team the moved to birmingham the following year hope this helps address was doncaster greyhound stadium, york road, doncaster

the track was located off york road (the old A1) very close to where furniture factors / The range are now located try and let you know some of the riders later.

happy to help, dont know why the one time was missed but i didnt fill the programme out, cant remember the match either but looked like a good one from the programme would have been a disaster to lose to halifax at home

Jim Airey 2 3 3 3 3 ..........14 Dave Baugh 0 - 0 - .........0 Bengt Larsson 1 2 3 3 2 ..........11 Brian Maxted 1 1 - 1 .......3 Arnold Haley 0 - 1 1 .........2+1 John Dews 2 0 1 0 ..........3+1 Billy Bales 3 2 1 1 ..........7 Eric Boocock 3 2 2 3 ............10 Denis gavros 1 0 3 0 ............4 Alan Jay 3 2 2 0 ..............7 Greg Kentwell 2 1 0 - ..............3+1 Dave Younghusband 3 3 2 2 ..............10 Bob Jameson 1 0 - ............1 Les Sharpe X 2 1 0 0 ...........3+1 1 - Boocock Airey Gavros Baugh 69.8 2-4 2 - Bales Dews jameson sharpe Ex 74.2 5-1 7-5 3 - Y Bond kentwell maxted haley 74 1-5 8-10 4 - jay sharpe larsson dews 73.8 1-5 9-15 5 - airey (haley) boocock maxted gavros 4-2 13-17 6 - airey jay dews (baugh) jameson 73.6 4-2 17-19 7 - y bond larsson kentwell dews dont know time 2-4 19-23 8 - gavros bales sharpe baugh 73.4 2-4 21-27 9 - Larsson (maxted) jay haley sharpe (jameson) 4-2 25-29 10 - airey y bond bales (baugh) kentwell 4-2 29-31 11 - larsson boocock bales gavros 4-2 33-33 12 - airey ybond maxted jay 4-2 37-35 13 - boocock larsson haley sharpe (kentwell) 3-3 40-38 HOPE THIS IS OK SORRY FOR THE DELAY

OK will check tonight for you

give me a couple of days to dig the programme ouit, ill scan it and email it to you both if you like

yes thats right, and thats the attitude that enables promoters to not promote and to year on tear tell us costs are rising too fast and must be cut and the standards drop and supporters go away from the sport. hop you will still be saying that when there are only a few teams left.

didnt ask what you, i, or tim stone wanted, asked what would be better for speedway

well whats better for speedway , newport or a well supported Bristol answers begining with b please

how long has berwick been in scotland?

I cant remember when the rules about the 1 to 5 came in, but i can remember exeter having Ivan Mauger at no 2 for some away matches many years ago

Totally agree, the two lowest riders at 6 & 7, 1 - 5 in what ever order the team manager wants. at least it would give the team manager something to think about, although in sheffields case it might not be a good thing

Yes they were and still are in to breaking cars for spares in rotherham, still think i heard thats where tommy made his money as well but not sure

heard it was something to do with scrap metal, but not sure but have heard he is quire well off, good luck to him.

and you know that their employers would do this for them? and what about the people doing this extra work, thats not an option, all that would happen is you would get an even greater gulf between the proffessional riders riding nearly every night and the amateur ones riding once or twice every two weeks. wont happen, and if it did it would kill speedway as we know it, might even be the end of team speedway

and what happens to the lesser riders who only ride in england, one meeting a week would not make it worth their while.

should have the programme somewhere if it would be a help to you

just a dream but we might some people with common sense and a common interest in taking the sport forward, if only.

couldnt agree more, no points limits and get rid of the jokers and we might be on the way to a professional sport at last