The Third Man

This doesnt matter IF you have a team manager that swaps things around, easy to play horses for courses with the reserves in a meeting

we always have riders knocking the door down to ride for sheffield, trouble is its a very strong door and they never get through it

Which ones? cant see any of the five we have signed who will improve, hopefully some will maintain their starting average of the two others suggested, richard hall hasnt improved his average in years If we sign wells he could improve his so we might have gone down the route of signing one rider who could improve

that would save me £50 per week

not certain but i think it was said at STARRS that hall and wells are signed, can anyone remember if this was the jist of it?

get the point, as i did in the first post, but lost me there sorry

there you go again accepting second best :lol:

just to play devils advocate can i just mention kym mauger and tony briggs and many other examples of sons not being able to follow in their fathers tyre prints. like i have already said, Jake impresed me with his enthusiasm and the fact he wants to ride at sheffield at the STARRS meeting, i hope he and all the other newcomers do well, i hope my opinion is not proven to be fact, but we will have to wait and see

to start, i have supported sheffield through thick and thin for 44 years, not just the last 10 good ones, mostly thin years as well, and i dont think Hoggy is blackmailing anyone, its not his style. but i will reserve the right to spend the money i earn on what ever i want to, if that isnt speedway, because i dont think it is value for money then so be it. so i will not be blackmailed into giving my money to sheffield each week by someone saying it will close if i dont, have you ever thought that if i dont go because i dont enjoy it then i obviously i wont be bothered if it closes will i? however i do not want sheffield to close, i want to go and be entertained each week, but i will not take the blame if it does because the product is not value for money.

Give us something to watch, or no 2014

best thing was until they gave the scorers at the end of the meeting we all thought that Jordan Framton had won heat 2 and surely finishing runners up in the play offs mean we finished second

as much as we can entertain ourselves between races, by talking, i would love to be entertained for the 15 races as well, and that was missing for a lot of last year

is there a button to click for not liking this? :lol:

and someone else who is there most Thursdays, Garry Stead

have to disagree i am afraid, i was thinking of terry thornhill

not for the last time, there seemed to be a complete lack of understanding from the team managers last season on a few matters. as SK said a team manager that can manage and not bow to the whims of individuals is a must, but when did we last have a real team manager?

the only problem i can see with this is at least keeping the numbers from last year, if some supporters dont see any improvement in either results or entertainment more could vote with their feet. winning the league has never been a priority for me, winning it twice in 44 years shows this, but i do want to be entertained, and i know you could argue that Richard will provide this, he was nearly a one man show in the PLRC, i think many wanted someone that could offer a little more. i hope i am wrong, and the enthusiasm from Knight and Koppe on thursday night does them a lot of credit, and i hope some people on me can say i told you so, but i am not totally convinced yet. We will all see in March

one miracle yes, two? who does it undermine, and how, are there really any speedway riders with such a gentle disposition that they get upset by what a few people say on here? and it is only a few people who come on here, how many have contributed 10 at most, so no one can claim to be representative of the fan base at all

he has a job in Leeds so is staying for a while then going back home for the final preperation, and some sun

Positive night at Starrs, hoogy couldnt turn up, sorry Dave, nice to see damien and jake there along with Jordon Tyrer, and Richard Knight and Paul Tyrer, what ave would they come on. We will now have to wait and see i suppose, just like we did last season at this stage, still worried but the two new lads there were positive, wanted to ride for Sheffield so heres hoping lastly on Starrs thanks Des for the cheapish beer and on to the Barrack for the next meeting

bev???????

the change was proposed when stead said he still wanted to ride for swindon, was that was sorted there was no reason to move i am very sorry elephant man but i work hard for my money and if i dont want to sponser sheffield speedway with it i wont, if we lose speedway in sheffield it will be because the product was not worth supporting, if it was people will come,so dont blame supporters, i will pick and choose meetings next year, even more than i did last season, and i know two supporters who didnt attend last season and who wont be coming back this season, they were tempted with stead, but the latest signings have left him saving £30 plus drinks and petrol each week again how often do sheffield drop riders?

what about the future? if this gamble fails and we lose even more supporters then there may well not be a future. i can appreciate building a new asset base, but we are under the points limit, with only wells and the the new guy, and thats a big maybe, capable of increasing their average i am very sorry but i too think it will be another long hard summer for us, lets hope we were down to the hardcore fans last year because i would hate to be stood there with even fewer people around me than there was last season

can you just remind me of Pauls average in the PL last season?

from what i remember tai came on a 3 and ended up on an 8 and won rye the league, ashley birks did really well at the end of his time at sheffield and scunthorpe were really grateful for that last year, cant remember autys first season average but he had averaged around 9 in the nl with scunthorpe. what was jakes average in the nl last year? around 5? sorry but those three examples do not make me more confident about knight in fact it convinces me even more that this team is looking like last years but with a good number 1