The Third Man

not at all we were going to use RR for Proctor on Saturday when he was riding for another team, this is the next natural extension of that rule. after all this is speedway and not a well run professional sport

the BSPA have not been put in this position by Sheffield. if Sheffield made the application wrongly, then as the governing body they should have said no, its not Sheffields fault that the BSPA dont know what they are doing

Nothing anywhere to say what the team is with just over 24hrs to go. Not good with people wanting to know whether it will be worth going, especially with the weather looking unsettled as well

was thinking more Sergai Kutzin (spelling?) wouldn't be the first time after all

depends who we sack, who we replace them with and whether they are able ride, and if they cant ride who we can get to use RR instead of quite simple really

Cant all be Sheffield's fault, as they had permission from the management committee, oh and the rain on Thursday didn't help as far as I am concerned if a team signs a rider knowing they will miss fixtures there should be no facility whatsoever for that fixture if that was the case no problem and no need to comment

As proctor was due to ride on Thursday I would assume he is in the declared 1 - 7 so would it have been alright to use rr for him if Thursdays meeting had been run? it isn't using rr for proctor tonight that's putting me off attending speedway, its the fact that a rider can ride for two teams on the same night I cant understand if a team signs a rider that already rides for another team then there should be no facility for him when he is riding for his other team, then the problem about rr tonight would not be a problem anyway

Updates say he turned right on the Workington rider when he was trying to pass him

Cant see what they gain, all the above would be available as a signing on fee even if they were free agents they can be sacked at any time so it doesnt guarentee a team spot, and with the average restriction every season they might never ride for the club they are an assett of, so as stated above do not see what they gain.

your not, but you are using it as an excuse not to have them on the straights, so again what happens if someones foot rest catches the air fence on a bend? do we do away them on the bends as well? i am not, i am just asking why is it dangerous only on the straights, but not dangerous on the bends, and it cant just be speed, at sheffield they go into the bends at 60 to 70 mph, so if you hit the fence on entry to the corner you are going faster than you would be on the exit, when you start going down the straight. another bquestion would be how many riders were injured because of the air fences on the straights, and how many have been injured because there hasnt been an air fence on the straight? anyone know for sure, ie facts and figures rather than opinions?

so are you saying this cant happen on the bends as well? and if it does will they be removed on the bends as well? and will all riders that fall off on the straights get their foot rests caught in the fence?

only one person connected with Sheffield Speedway has told me that my money was not wanted, and it wasnt a promoter, however he does like the sound of his own voice, and he made sure that everyone knew on Wednesday night, by announcing it, that he was giving his time for nothing, he was lucky i had to pay to give them my time

Couldnt agree more, hope you ends up somewhere soon, and he wasnt a friend just someone who you could talk to, and agree or disagree with

if the information i have is correct there is a fourth member of the consortium, and it is a very surprising name, dont think he has anything to hide as such, the name i have been told was there on Thursday night for everyone to see.

not the Hoggy i know, i disagreed with him many times and he never told me to go and support someone else, just talked and had a sensible discussion, perhaps i was a lucky one. Good luck Dave and sorry to see you go

if air fences are the answer to safety, why dont we have them down the straights, riders still get injured hitting the fence there, or would they cost too much to put all around the track? and if cost is a factor, how does that fit with rider safety?

Rumours around that Hoggy is no longer involved, dont know how true it is, but was surprised he wasnt there last night. hope the rumours are wrong

Re the programme The race card obviously costs the club money, drop the race card, keep admission prices the same and let anyone who wants to spend extra on a programme do so. no one has to buy it, we will get one between the two of us instead of the club paying for two race cards, how many race cards do you see lying around the terraces and the panarama room after a meeting, either not filled in or just not wanted? lets not argue against change just because we dont like change, lets give it a go then comment

speedway tracks die when they dont have enough support the ones that dont go dont care, so use it ot lose it doesnt matter to them, they have nothing to lose, they dont go anyway PS might have a bit more enthusiasm this season, it has been too easy to find an excuse not to go for the last two years

he knows how to solve the problem of the sun on the back straight

only thought it had been forgotten about because it hasnt been mentioned anywhere, happy that it hasn't ps happy new year

Once the team, and air fence, are sorted the next thing needs to be a well deserved testimonial for Ricky, something that seems to have been forgot about

i think i know my mind better than you vissing wasnt just dangerous, he watched cooper coming past him all the way down the back straight and then put his back wheel in his way forcing him into the fence at high speed, not just dirty but on purpose, i would never cheer for this rider. Gathercole wasnt far off doing the same thing to birko, he just speared him and sent him into the fence, both Sheffield riders were very lucky to walk away, not something i will forget even if they did ride for us, which i hope they will never do neither rider went to the other to see how they were, vissing even coming out for a lap of honour even though he was taken out of his next race

there was a worse one, vissing on coops, vissing is another rider i could never support after that move

The latest i have heard is that is still a lot going on behind the scenes, so i think Sheffield will be there come March / April