The Third Man

If there are two leagues, one will be bigger. the question needs to be at what level can we afford the big league to be For quite a few seasons now clubs have paid out more money for riders they cant afford supposedly to get more fans in. it hasn't worked, we need the pitch the "big" league at a level that can be afforded and then hope to rebuild, but it looks like that wont happen obviously some clubs like to lose money year on year

so nothings going to change, lets go back to how it didn't work perhaps the so called big teams will realise there is a problem when they keep losing teams mid season like this year, but even then I doubt it so another nail in the speedway coffin

This is Speedway rules can be changed to suit

Don't see how a North South split would save money, very few riders live near the track they ride for Might work if more fans go to away matches because they are close by, buts that all

Berge & Kurtz riding for Swindon tonight

Josh G - A real number 1 Kennedy Anderson Kurtz for starters, after that it depends on the points limit and the make up of the league I suppose

haven't seen that sensible rule used for years, don't know why

Viewing from the panorama room should be OK, if you don't mind being inside, otherwise Third and Fourth bends should be OK

Think his bikes would have to go that way anyway, so not much extra for an extra person

So which rules have been broken, the one that says you cant drive to continental meetings you must have the money to fly? where is that in the rule book

So you are only able to ride in important meetings if you have a team behind you? and we wonder why there is a limited amount young talent coming though

I think you need to stop the obsession and focus on the match now it looks like Sheffields top 2 cost us again

How is Harris getting there? How is Shanes getting there? If Shanes is driving there is no way he could risk setting off the meeting, he will already be on his way It's a disgrace that he cant afford to fly out tonight or tomorrow morning

Might be something to do with Sheffield riding on a Thursday

So we have riders dropping out already presumably the long track date was already known before some one at the BSPA decided on the date for this meeting? so why organise it for this Sunday, knowing riders who have genuinely qualified will be missing Do we have an updated line up, or is that another BSPA secret?

Just checked the championship and the table stays the same with two points for any win and one point for any draw, the teams are closer together points wise but that's all

Just checked this in the championship, and you are correct, the table stays the same with two points for any win and one point for any draw, the teams are closer together points wise but that's all

a lot will depend on the type of track. if we have an outside line for once we will have a chance, if the track has been like the last few weeks, and our gating is like the last few weeks we will struggle

Must be odds on for a win

Think it will be Kennedy, must be one of the worst kept secrets that has signed for us cant see us paying a transfer fee for Howarth when we don't need to

it does make it better meeting I agree, but who has he replaced, would it have been a better meeting with them in it and withdraw one of the others, where do we stop, do we say certain riders have no chance of winning so what's the point of them riding? are there riders not riding, who have ridden in CL this year, who perform better at Sheffield? they would also make for a better meeting, where do we stop, or do we just invite the 16 riders we think would perform at Sheffield?

I think it is now time to scrap this competition, as others have said it is not a serious meeting anyway, riders riding with only 2 matches to qualify, one rider riding in Poland, I thought all riders had to commit to riding in this meeting if they qualified, and you can bet others will withdraw either on the day or the day before due to mysterious problems that will immediately disappear Lets just have an open meeting with riders invited, although how you would get agreement on that is beyond me

The league riders championship should be based on this season, not this season and last

This meeting has always been about qualification, with, not now I know, the number one rider from each team. it has never been about the top 16 riders in the averages, and there used to be criteria, i.e. a minimum number of matches for your team, before you could ride. now that seems to have been removed, surely just invite the top 16 riders in the league based on their averages and forget all other qualification criteria or better still get the top sixteen riders based on their averages at Sheffield, that should give you the best riders for the meeting

Well if riders don't need to qualify they might as well make it an open meeting and invite who they want