Ben91

I know, as I was there every week... This is just taking the p*** too much now. I was really looking forward to seeing the Hawks this season, however the prices will mean I do 1, maybe 2 home meetings, with the rest I attend in 2011 being Rockets meetings. The fact I can't pay student prices too is ridiculous, I won't plead poverty because that isn't true, however if it wasn't for my loyalty to my own team I'd be tempted to go to Lakeside on a friday evening, I'd get in cheaper. That won't work. Promoters need to look at how to bring new fans into the sport, not just bringing back old ones by reviving their defunct team. Dudley was the exception, not the rule, because the promotion is seperate to Wolverhampton/Birmingham.

Yes it is... 2 adults and 2 children could get into Mildenhall for £26, that's £8 saved. Spread that over the season of league matches and there's a big difference £306 at Rye and £234 at Mildenhall. That's £72 saving. I will support the Hawks and watch their results but will be picking and choosing meetings because there's no way to justify such high prices, especially in a stadium where you don't have to pay rent. If Len gambled and charged £10 a meeting at NL level, I bet the stadium would be almost as full as a Rockets match each time the Hawks race.

Shame to see Dallaway retire, always thought he had something about him, whilst his NL average wasn't that high, he always looked to me like he had the ability to mix it and perhaps go on to the Premier League at some stage, very much like Jordan Frampton has done. One rider I always looked forward to seeing ride.

Morris would be a great signing on a 6.90 average but riding for Glasgow he would not be able to ride at all at home for the Hitmen surely?

Press release confirming Taylor says he'll be number 1 so I guess that means no Wright. Branford and Adam Allott in the pipeline perhaps?

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It was just a generality June, I'm not doubting your support, I've seen on this section before you're always supporting the youngsters and that is what we all should do. I can see how you feel, we have the same situation with the Cobras now track sharing as the Hackney Hawks, i'll support the team at Rye as always, however I won't travel to Lakeside and pay £12 to watch because it isn't viable for me to do so, which is a shame because I always enjoy watching our National League meetings.

Garrity reminds me a lot of Ryan Fisher in his style, the lads clearly got balls, he can certainly be a top liner in the NL in 2011 and pushing for a PL spot somewhere.

It's not a difficult concept to understand, the team are there to bring riders on, the name doesn't matter too much really, however if calling them Sheffield when they race at Sheffield and Scunthorpe when they race at Scunthorpe means more fans come through the door then that's the best way forward simply. It would be good to see the Hull name revived, it may help with pushes for a new stadium for the Vikings, it really depends how fickle certain fans at both clubs are and won't attend because of the name of the side rather than supporting the youngsters who could be the future of British speedway.

David Beckham isn't left out of pocket every time he plays for England though is he? The slide British speedway is on is an alarming one and it could have been prevented years ago. Lets hope moves are made to stop it now, though I doubt that will happen very much.

Would be a decent team Simon, would be nice to see Niall Strudwick given one of the reserve berths though on a 3 point average.

Solid side, personally can't see them winning the league, however if they do it'll justify Belle Vue entering a team into the NL. Garrity is the stand out rider, he will increase his average, however I can't see much in the others. Hackney are still the team to beat imo.

I understand that Waco, however Danny Halsey has been on this forum recently asking for a team spot, i'm sure if offered one with the Hawks he would have taken it. We all have teams we would preferred to have seen and that's all i'm saying. I'll support all seven riders who race for the Hawks including Magic Mason and I do hope he has a good season, I just can't see it, thats all.

It's the opinion of the paying customer. You make it sound as if we've said something absolutely terrible about David. No-one has said they won't support him, but there are two young riders out there (at least) in Halsey and Strudwick, who we could have used and would be better options and also they are riders who have a chance at a future with the Rockets and maybe even the Hammers at some point, I can't see Mason in the Elite League in future can you?...

Interesting line-up, one that could challenge. Only change I would have made would be Danny Halsey instead of David Mason, if that had been the side we would have walked the NL in 2011. As it is we will be strong challengers still.

If this and what Rye and Lakeside are doing starts a trend of teams collaborating to run an NL side then it can only be a good thing, my concern wouldn't be over team names, more over what will happen when these teams produce riders who will be wanted by both clubs for the Premier League side, at the moment most of the Saints are Scunthorpe assets of course, but say for example Stefan comes through and is wanted to race PL, will he be an asset of Scunthorpe or Sheffield. This could cause clubs falling out and breaking up the partnerships which are being built.

Let's hope Barrie can line up for the Hawks this season, if he does and the team Ash has posted is indeed the one we go to tapes with it will certainly be a title challenging side. I'll be supporting the Hawks, let's hope they can win something!

Looks about right Ash, can see Evans having to turn out for the Fen Tigers now however... If that is the case i'd like to see Danny Halsey and Tommy Allen fill the last two spots, they'd both fit in I believe.

The Scunthorpe V Rye double headers in recent years have been fantastic, I'm hoping that the Saints V Hawks fixture will be staged as the second part of a Scorpions/Rockets double header again in 2011, if not I won't be as tempted to travel i'm afraid.

Looking very top heavy, which I would assume means a good amount of young lower end riders, which is a good thing! I'd imagine Gareth Isherwood will figure on a 5.12 average in the Potters septet.

Thought Buzz might have returned to Stoke for the 2011 season, shame if he does have to retire, he can still mix it at this level and is a really entertaining rider to watch still.

Fantastic news for the Fen Tigers, at Uni in Norwich, so will be getting along to as many meetings at West Row as I can in 2011

Very sensible approach, may be a debatable signing, however Jon will be putting his bod on the line for the Heathens so it is right to support him. I know I do the same for any rider who pulls on a Rye House racejacket. Very true, not a dig at Dudley on my part, just a case of them being one of the teams who have supposedly voted against the Fen Tigers inclusion. It is a shame any club would have voted against the Tigers coming back to the sport and if Rye are one of those clubs who have i'd be very disappointed by that.

Armstrong on an 8.36 average? That's a very big gamble, he is a good rider, however when did he attain that figure? I'm pretty sure he was averaging around 6 a meeting last season. Loyalty can cost successful teams in speedway and the increase that Adam will have in average looks like it will be offset by a drop in Jon's. Also if the Heathens have voted against the Fen Tigers return to the sport it's quite shocking, just remember last winter it was the other way round...

Standard "You must be a racist for saying the NL should be Brits only," response from a few here again. I agree, we need to set up racing for younger riders below NL standard, however, we also need to maximise track time for those riders who are in the NL, assuming (also hoping) the NL is a 10 team league this year, that's potentially 10 Brits who could be replaced by Aussies/Kiwi's who should be coming over when they are ready for the PL. Before the "Well there are Brits going out to Aus and taking our riders spots," responses look at things from this perspective. Riders such as Micky Dyer, Andrew Aldridge, Ryan Sedgemen, Grant Tregoning have all come over in recent years and averaged between roughly 5-7 points a meeting respectively at NL level, the riders we are sending to Australia are in the main established PL regulars (Auty, Haines, Newman), so until we are sending our raw talent out to Australia and New Zealand then the same should not happen the other way as is the norm at the moment. Points limit lowering is a sensible idea to develop talent, teams will be encouraged to use young 3 pointers who will generally up their averages and move into the main team for the following season as the new reserves come in etc, over a few years this will also stop riders dropping down on ridiculously high averages, or at least if they do, then a team will have to compensate with a few lower averaged youngsters. in 3-4 years the league would have a lot of young British talent and then slowly a compulsory 3 point Brit at reserve in every PL team could come in to play with this again being expanded on slowly. Patience is a virtue and if there was some in British speedway we could rebuild and have some fantastic riders coming through in the next few seasons but we have to build from the NL up.