Ben91

Great result for the Raiders, can't believe the joke that is the cut off date considering the disjointed season we've had due to adverse weather. If the Raiders sneak in, unlikely with the Islanders going to Lynn, then we could cause an upset. Garrity is one of the best riders in the league, Sarj has been on top form in the last few meetings, probably because he's actually been racing regularly, something that hasn't happened for many of the Raiders this season. Ben, again is a big hitter at this level now, whilst Shane Hazelden wasn't Hackney number one last year for no reason.

If you don't splash the cash you have a pony team, no one comes and you go bust too, vicious circle really. Len is the most experienced promoter in the game, compared to the Mallets at Newport who struggled. These things are cyclical, we'll be back on top soon, let's just hope the presentation steps into the 21st century!

Josh has been a very good guest for us, would love to take him off your hands tbh, on a 7.5 average roughly I think he'd be a steal as a second heatleader. Think building a team with Bager as a third heatleader would be a bit of a gamble, especially with Henry on an inflated Brough Park average joining him in the engine room. That being said as long as the Tigers come to tapes for 2013 that is the main thing! We flogged Linus Sundstrom to Peterborough for 20k plus the winter before last, the year we should have held out declaring the side and could have kept him as a D/U rider, but I digress.

Ah most people who aren't fans of him coming back are so because he has a bit of a shady past. He's a talented rider, I'd expect he'd still be active riding moto x etc in Oz and at 19 he's still got time on his side.

Why wouldn't you want a rider on a bargain average? You won't win anything building a side on a rider's personality.

Sorry but I'm missing the part of this post in which you've backed up your big headed claims you know more about speedway than everyone else here. Give me a camera and mic I'll be a speedway commentator, get me in the box I'll be an announcer/presenter. Give me enough money I'll buy the club but that doesn't make me any better than anyone else and it doesn't need any skill to do. Some of the drivel you've spouted above is down right disrespectful to the true Rye House fans, we all disagree but at the end of the day we want the best for our club, even Chris! Although I guess if you weren't there at Rayleigh you don't count as a true fan in your view?

What are you on about? As I've said already twice now, rolling averages are taken over up to 38 meetings, not a true reflection of Jason's season for Rye. The reason he has stayed at reserve is the rolling averages, Richie Worrall has spent most of the season at reserve for Newcastle despite averaging 8+ real time. Nobody has said he will add 2 points to his average next year, I certainly haven't. If he can average the same as he has this year it'll be a good year again as the amount of bonus points he has picked up have proven that he is a good team man. Interesting to see Grajczonek back on Saturday, would be a very good signing as a second/third heat leader for next season.

Rye House applied for special dispensation to use Robert as a Raider this season, would suggest that both the rider and promotion had come to an agreement. Hope he does line up as a Raider next season, learn the track before coming into the Rockets on a 3 point average in 2014 all being well. That being said it was hoped Mark Owen would do the same, he seemed to struggle last year sadly. Hopefully Robert won't have the same trouble. World Speedway's big meetings are raced on the big continental tracks, Robert has probably made the right choice racing competitive meetings abroad against some top opposition rather than poodling round in the Under 15 Championship and winning it at a canter.

Gutted i'm not going now. Robbo in a Rye House race jacket again is something not to be missed. Damn work.

That's the whole point though, he's put almost 2 points on his starting average, the rolling averages make that look modest. If he was being made to look good by his rolling average you'd have a point. He's well worth having in reserve and has a few seasons in him yet, starting next year with the two Jasons at reserve would be a good start to team building.

Not at all, Bunyan is averaging 6.08 with bonus points included. Rolling averages have kept his average low, plus the fact the BP's don't count towards his average for team building purposes. Bonus points mean he is finishing behind a team mate which is a good thing for the team obviously. He's a strong rider to have in reserve on an average which doesn't tell the whole story. I'll be disappointed if he isn't in the side next year.

Probably be a point or two under, can't see that side challenging for the title either. Stefan seems to perform well at Rye but I'd be dubious about going in with a reserve on a lower average than Garrity. It is vital we keep hold of Bunyan, he picks up a lot of bonus points, he is a lot better rider than the short sighted amongst the Rye fans are making out. The team below which I posted the other day has the strong top end and reserves you need to be a contender with scope for improvement in 4 of the riders. With two of Bunyan, Nielsen, Nelson and Garrity at reserve at all times we would be serious contenders. 1. Gjedde 2. Bunyan 3. Mellgren 4. Nelson 5. An Other (7-8ish) 6. Nielsen 7. Garrity

Toll road is only 50p still, but the smell is worth so much more...

Wouldn't take Olly on that figure, rather keep Charlie, having recommended Kasper to us I'd expect him back. Kasper's average is 4.89 at the minute, he's raced 4 meetings now, be more than happy to take him on that figure from what I've seen so far.

I can smell something remarkably like cow poo.

Averages staying roughly where they are now and if Nelson does actually return, I can imagine us lining up something like this next season: 1. Gjedde 2. Bunyan 3. Mellgren 4. Nelson 5. An Other (7-8ish) 6. Nielsen 7. Garrity That line up would take some stopping, improvement in Mellgren, Nelson, Nielsen and Garrity. Two strong reserves at all times with Gjedde and the other potential heatleader being able to lead from the front. If, as I suspect, we don't see Tyson again then I can see Kling and Lanham take the last two slots realistically. I'd like to see Josh Grajczonek as a Rocket, especially after yesterday's performance. Whether he could fill a slot I don't know.

Not the best meeting we've had this year, not the worst though considering the forecast bad weather meant watering the track too heavily would have been risky business. Josh Grajczonek proved a good choice of guest, looked very comfortable at Rye. I wouldn't be against seeing him in a Rye race jacket next season. R/R scored 5+1, less than Luke would have certainly. Anders started well, was a different rider after the interval, at least that'll keep his average down for next year. Lambert looked uncomfortable, still a little confused as to why we've signed him. Kasper was a little sluggish out the traps, the boy can pass though will be a top second string next season. Ben was very hit and miss, claimed another scalp in the form of Kauko Nieminen but once behind never looks like making a pass. Jason had a solid day, again after the interval he looked like a different rider. For the Lions I was shocked with how poor Magnus Karlsson looked, for a rider who was once one of the best in the league he only managed to beat Rye's reserves and Lewis Blackbird. Was good to see Neathy back at Rye and hear him talking, we have missed him certainly. My real concern is Lambert, whilst a lot of fans are against Ben Morley by the looks of things, he looks a lot more comfortable and quicker than Simon round Rye. We could use him on a 3 point average and get the same results with 7 points to play with to sign another heatleader. Put it this way why buy a car for £550 when you could buy the same car for £300? The Nelson programme notes, I personally think that is the last we will hear/see of him. If he comes back on a 5.33 average it'll be a good one, though I have my doubts.

Tai Woffinden is the highest averaged Brit in the Elite League. He's just as good as Bomber and Scotty, therefore he is just as prepared for the series. Another lad on the way up and finally starting to show his true potential is Danny King, he could come into contention in the next year or so, he still has a long career ahead of him. Seems to be a forgotten man.

Some of the comments here are laughable, something along the lines of giving Josh Auty a permanent GP wild card for next year from someone, I hope that was an attempt at humour. Auty would get destroyed in the GPs. The Wildcard system is flawed, it should all be decided by GP qualifying rounds. How someone decided who 'deserves' a wildcard place and the criteria which constitutes deserving that wildcard are a mystery, probably even to the person who makes the decision. Cardiff is the Speedway GP's biggest night, therefore there must be a Brit in the series full time as well as the meeting wildcard as a minimum. That means a wildcard to the series needs to be offered to Chris, Tai or Scott. Chris is showing at the moment he is struggling, Scott has had his time in the series but there is no doubt he could compete and in my opinion he is more geared up for the GP's than Chris. Tai is the future, he had one season which came too soon but he has shown in the SWC he can compete. Lets hope he gets the spot, I think it would be the right decision to make. As an aside, in the Formula One Grand Prix, you couldn't consider the drivers to be the best 24(?) in the world.

Uninspiring signing, I wish Simon all the best but I just don't see the point. He won't be a strong reserve if he drops down, there's a reason he has had so many clubs. Getting another promising assessed rider an average and giving Ben Morley or another 3 pointer a chance to impress would be the logical option in building for next year. Tyson 'Lord Lucan' Nelson needs to turn up and hit the ground running now of we want to make any impression late in the season.

Was a very good meeting, we're getting a fair few this season at Rye. Kasper looks like he's going to be some prospect, not afraid of mixing it with the likes of Barker and trying to put hard moves on him. I have to say he may be a rider in the Pedersen mould who will push it to the max and could cause a bit of controversy but that's what we need. First impressions from his two home meetings are that we've got a gem on our hands. For Plymouth I have to mention Reade, not sure if he's ridden at Rye before but he had a smooth style and looked assured, not far off the pace at all.

Haha not at all, rather him than an Aussie in the NL! You know the ones I'm talking about, Terry Tibbs and his mate

Not by me, I can't be held accountable for other Rye fans comments, good luck to Adam and Richie Worrall riding in all 3 leagues, good to support our own riders, still, I've digressed. Damn!

Yet the Roynon riding in all three leagues "debate" is dragged up in every Dudley thread. Quite amusing. There seems to be a theme with some Dudley fans, I remember when they were at Rye earlier in the season a couple of blokes in their mid forties from Dudley hurling abuse across the tempstand at a couple of OAP Rye fans who in fairness don't know when to keep it shut themselves. As me and my friend stood up to leave after heat 15 the Dudley fans thought we were going to confront them, I don't think they appreciated us laughing in their faces much either.

Lambert isn't an inspiring signing, though Hawkins wasn't exactly setting the world alight either! He'll be just like Brundle last year, a stop gap til the end of the season. Now the averages have changed we've missed the boat on a 7 point rider to replace Luke, will be interesting to see who does come in, maybe an assessed 5 pointer but we have to act very quickly if we want to get someone an average for next season. We're doing the right things building for next season, Gjedde, Melgren, Neilsen, Bunyan, Garrity and Nelson plus one other, potentially Lanham or Kling, would be a very tasty looking line up.