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There's quite a few of us on here who like the odd bet on the EL. I don't know what the cumulative take is by the bookies from the live meetings in isolation, but perhaps an approach to the likes of Bet 365 or Bet Victor might be in order. If betting on live meetings is profitable, they might wish to protect that revenue stream? Skybet must have been one of the only bookmaking sponsors not to offer day to day odds on the league they were sponsoring and if Sky doesn't renew does the Skybet "sponsorship" disappear too? If you could get the likes of Bet 365 to sponsor the broadcasts, maybe BT or even Eurosport would be interested in showing it?

Too true - one thing travels faster than good news and that's bad news

Thanks for the heads up on that. It will be interesting to see what Sky comes up with to compete against the World Cup. Clutching at straws somewhat, but speedway might be a good option for sky as the fanbase is pretty loyal. Would be interesting to learn what the viewing figures were for yesterday evening, going head to head with the England match.

But there will be a lot of football in June/July next year, with the World Cup in Brasil. Don't know what, if any, packages sky have the rights to broadcast, but there will certainly be no void, well not one of 2.5 hours on a Monday evening, to concern them as a result of there being no speedway contract. As a speedway fan, I will always go to Belle Vue and watch Sky meetings later anyway, but will miss coverage when there are no clashes. I do hope that the sport can be sold to BT, as the cupboard is pretty bare IMHO as regards their sports offerings. I only watch the odd football game and as I believe that rugby should be played with 13 men on the field, am not interested in their flagship rugby offering.

Dancing sure is toning Susanna's legs - now who that guy with the bike?

And if you find it, I think we'd all be interested to find out where it's been hiding for the past decade!!

Tai came over well. I was pleasantly surprised by how long the interview went on for. Will it add more to the terraces - I doubt it, but our well oiled publicity and promotion machine should be using today as a platform to build on. Problem is, I can't see that happening either.

Don't listen to Talk sh*te, but from what you're saying it's living up to the name us Chelsea fans have given it.

Q & A feature with Tai in the Daily Telegraph Sport Monthly. Hopefully all the press will report we have a British World Champion tomorrow.

Nearly choked on my porridge when I heard it. Wonder if some of the great work the likes of BBC Cambridgeshire & West Midlands do with their local teams is filtering through? I doubt it personally, but you never know.

And so it proved

Nice odds from BWin yesterday - 3/5 on a KL win against B'Ham. Others were around 1/3

Saw Per break the Reading track record (against Coventry if memory serves me well) and it was an absolutely faultless, wheel perfect four laps. Truly great ride, shame about how it all ended for him

I called Sportingbet and they will not be offering odds on Elite League or eliteserien matches for the foreseeable future - might be somthing to do with the takeover. Bet Victor most certainly had odds on Tuesday as I backed Vetlanda +10 and Piraterna +4. As for Wednesday, well I had bets with Coral on both the Brum and KL meetings and used Ladbrokes for in-play betting on the Brum meeting

So, in a nutshell, the sooner the new stadium at Belle Vue comes to fruition, the better. This is going to be styled on the old Hyde Road / Polish tracks and will give us a facility where we can develop British talent. Getting a maximum around Lakeside/Wolves/Belle Vue has no relevance at all when looking at the continental tracks. We've seen a World U-21 champion recently look like a novice at Wolverhampton and then perform really well in the SWC for Poland. PC and Michael Lee were both world champions and used to ride on big British tracks, which set them up well for what they found on the continent. Hopefully, our time will come again

No it wouldn't. The strong would remain at a level and the weak, as you put it, get the opportunity to build up the the level of the strongest from the previous year. Economics will kick in and teams will find their levels. The original question was about continuity and continuously having to break up teams for the sake of maintaining an artificially low average and I believe my suggestion would solve the perennial problem.

Nothing half-baked, as you put, it at all. Instead of employing 2nd rate foreign riders because of the average restrictions, they would be able to go out and obtain better options. These do exist, or don't you look at the strength of teams in Poland and Sweden. The idea is to maintain continuity, so what's half-baked about that, oh wise one?

Only one team can be Champions, so why not allow them to keep the same team if they wish, with their cumulative average being the figure that all teams can build to for the following season? We've gone down the path of diluting the product and the result of this can be seen at the turnstiles.

Within an e-mail I received from BWin, is their rules governing Friday's meeting: The relevant excerpt in regards to the evaluation of the above bets can be found on our websie or at the following link provided for your convenience: https://help.bwin.com/general-information/legal-matters/general-terms-and-conditions/sports-betting-special-rules/speedway "1.) All meeting bets apply to a specific number of heats, generally 15. If a meeting is abandoned and 12 or more heats have been completed at the time of abandonment then all bets will be settled on the official result. If less than 12 heats have been completed at the time of abandonment then all bets will be void. This also applies to Handicap bets." So, it looks like a genuine error in settling and if you haven't been paid out on Cov +5.5, contact BWin and I'm sure they'll amend accordingly.

I know - in reality seven heat leaders in today's terms. What we've arrived at today has been caused by lowering the points limit over the years, resulting in a vastly diluted product at a premium price. And they wonder why they don't get the crowds.

According to a poster on Twitter, they were going Eastie -7

Yep was there and The Falcons got it spot on tactically. But you metion a race between PC, Soren and Ivan - shows you how poor the standard of the so-called Elite League is today. Every team should have its equivalent of The Turbo Twins, but sadly not the case.

Bwin did the same to me - I called them and they eventually paid me out on Cov +4.5 - suggest you do the same.

MJJ announced as wild card for Parken http://t.co/UlKoDizzzW

Not a fan of the re-vamp and without question, not having the results sections by league is my main gripe. My subscription renewal has arrived and for the first time I'm considering not renewing. Had the Star received complaints about how the presentation used to be? If not, then why change just for the sake of it?