T.N.T.

PLEASE NOTE; .... You need to predict a score for ALL 16 riders ...... You need to predict the scores for the riders I listed only ..... so if Darcy Ward does replace Troy Batchelor, you stillhave to predict the score for Batchelor (not Ward) ...... remember, that if a rider is replaced, you sore what his replacement scores. ..... so Madsen and Batrchelor are in the list (not Jensen and Ward) Good Luck ...... think this could be a meeting that goes to the last heat.

If there was to be changes I would rather it was something like .... The World Team Cup (4 riders and 1 sub) to be held every other year Then in the other year, there is the WORLD CUP where each country is represented by 8 rider teams (6 + 2 reserves) using the much tied and tested old International Format over 18 heats If it was to be held in England say ..... you would have 12 countries in four groups of 3 Groups 1 and 3 ride on Monday, Wednesday and Friday .... Groups 2 and 4 ride on the Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday Winners of Group 1 and Group 3 race off on the Monday .... Group 2 ad 4 winners on the Wednesday ..... The final to be held on the Saturday .... (or best of 3 on Friday, Saturday and Sunday at 3 different tracks) Sweden, Poland, Denmark, Russia, Australia, England, Germany, and Czech Republic would be joined by the 4 qualifiers, possibly from Italy, USA, Slovenia, Slovakia, Latvia, Finland, Scotland, Ukraine, Croatia etc

So we now know the four countries set to race in the final of the 2012 Speedway World Team Cup Final ....... and we now know the EIGHT managers that will be in the FINAL PREDICTION First through to the final is ROBBIE B who top scored in the race off predictor with 12 points after picking a strong quartet of MJJ, Buczkowski, Iversen and Pedersen. Next through with a score of 10 points is REFEREERICK who despite selecting Pepe, he also selected Woffinden, MJJ and Pedersen. FUDGE with 8 points makes it through in third place, just ahead of RACERS AND ROYALS on 7 points. .... After just squeezing into the race off, PANDORUM makes it to the final after scoring 4 points and then we have the final three qualifiers who all scored 3 points who are HILLY, SUPERSTAR1 and SCREM Just missing out are ....... CJ69 2pts, SPOOK 2 pts and NOGGIN 2 pts who were well clear of the bottom five of SAMTHEPALACEMAN -1, SKITTLE FACE -1, DIDDY -2, HOMER -3 and last but ot least BOMBER HAMMER who scored -7 after putting his faith in Iversen, Janowski, A Dryml and Scott Nicholls. DENMARK; MJJ 4, Iversen 3, Pedersen 2, Madsen -3 POLAND; Buczkowski 3, Gollob 3, Janowski -2, Pepe -2 TEAM GB; Woffinden 6, Bomber -1, King -3, Nicholls -6 CZECH; Franc 9, L Dryml 0, Kus -2, A Dryml -2 So the 8 remaining predictors now have the final hurdle and its a massive hurdle to clear if they are going to lift the title Here are the 16 riders likely to line up in the World Team Cup Final on Saturday night .... SWEDEN Andreas Jonsson Fredrik Lindgren Tomas H Jonasson Peter Ljung RUSSIA Emil Sayfutdinov Grigory Laguta Artem Laguta Roman Povazhny AUSTRALIA Jason Crump Chris Holder Davey Watt Troy Batchelor DENMARK Nicki Pedersen Neils K Iversen Michael Jepsen Jensen Leon Madsen All you have to do now is ......... predict what each rider will score If you predict Chris Holder will score 13 points but he actually scores 10, you get 3 points If you think there will be changes to these line ups (Darcy Ward / Troy Batchelor ..... Leon Madsen / Kenneth Bjerre), you still predict the score for the rider listed. ..... So if you think Darcy will ride and score 12, you have to predict Troy will get 12 The one with the lowest total at the end will be ...... CHAMPION !!! NOTE; All posts MUST be made by 6pm on Saturday ...... no editing or posting after this time GOOD LUCK

Still need selections from ..... Hilly refereerick homer Diddy samthepalaceman Fudge Racers and Royals Will post the 8 finalists after tonights meeting and the predictions for the final .... that have a twist !!!

WOOOOPPPPS !!!! PETER LJUNG was a mistake ...... it should have been ..... LEON MADSEN

NOTE; Scores for Artem Laguta and Roman Povazhny from event 1 have been rectifed SCORES FROM EVENT ONE RUSSIA; 4 = Emil Sayfutdinov -3 = Grigory Laguta 2 = Atrem Laguta 4 = Roman Povazhny POLAND; 1 = Tomasz Gollob -6 = Grzegorz Walasek 1 = Pepe Protasiewicz / Janusz Kolodiej 3 = Maciej Janowski USA; 4 = Greg Hancock -4 = Billy Hamill -2 = Ryan Fisher 1 = Ricky Wells DENMARK; -1 = Neils K Iversen -1 = Leon Madsen 0 = Michael J Jensen 2 = Mikkel B Jensen SCORES FROM EVENT TWO GERMANY; 1 = Martin Smolinski 3 = Kevin Wolbert 0 = Max Dilger -1 = Tobias Kroner CZECH; -1 = Lukas Dryml 11 = Ales Dyml -3 = Josef Franc 0 = Matej Kus TEAM GB; 7 = Chris Harris 1 = Scott Nicholls -2 = Tai Woffinden -2 = Daniel King AUSTRALIA; 3 = Jason Crump -1 = Chris Holder -6 = Troy Batchelor/Darcy Ward 1 = Davey Watt LEADERBOARD Top 16 go through to the race off !! ...... Well Done 32 ..... Hilly 29 ..... refereerick 28 ..... Bomber Hammer 26 ..... CJ69 23 ..... Superstar1 22 ..... homer 22 ..... Diddy 21 ..... spook 21 ..... RobbieB 20 ..... samthepalaceman 20 ..... skittle face 19 ..... noggin 19 ..... Fudge 19 ..... screm 18 ..... Racers and Royals 16 ..... Pandorum 15 ..... MattK 12 ..... Arson Fire 14 ..... Panther89 14 ..... mdmc82 13 ..... Speedy den boy 12 ..... PTW 12 ..... Danish Webmaster 10 ..... JCookie 10 ..... Rico 10 ..... Iceman 9 ...... Jamie E 8 ...... Pantherman 8 ...... Gavan 8 ...... DeeksYaMahaga 5 ...... Gray 2 ...... Brummie Kev 1 ...... Diamonds Rock 1 ...... WilliamFJ -2 ..... Impartial One -4 ..... TNT -5 .... Jonesy the Wolf -7 .... dontforgetthefueltapsbruv PREDICTIONS FOR RACE OFF - Thursday POLAND 12 Tomasz Gollob 9 Maciej Janowski 8 Krzysztof Buczkowski 7 Pepe Protasiewicz DENMARK 10 Neils K Iversen 10 Nicki Pedersen 9 Michael Jepsen Jensen 7 Leon Madsen TEAM GB 12 Chris Harris 8 Tai Woffinden 8 Scott Nicholls 6 Daniel King CZECH REPUBLIC 6 Ales Dryml 3 Matej Kus 3 Lukas Dryml 2 Josef Franc TIE BREAKER ...... How many points will Team GB score on Thursday night ?

The scores for Artem Laguta +1 point and Roman Povazhny -1 point will be doe later ..... When I give the leaderboard after Event 2, I will also post the predicted scores for riders in the race off and final ...... these must be posted before the Sky coverage on Thursday night (6pm) Remember only the Top 16 qualify for the final part of the game and All finalists will start on 0 points as Events 1 and 2 are purely Qualifiers for the race off and final. LAST 16; After tonights event, the Top 16 will go forward to the race off ....... The top 8 after the race off will go through to the final where there is a twist !!! (note... if 16th or 8th place is tied, all those level will go through, so the last 16 could see 17+ in the race off.)

I have put Artem Laguta down as scoring 6 and Roman Povazhny down as scoring 7 ....... these were the wrong way around, so those that selected Artem will gain a point ..... those that selected Roman will lose a point good news for me any way !! Yes thats the rules ....... Glad your happy as Travis McGowan is first reserve

To be honest, England could track Vaculik and Zmarzlik but wont get near the Aussies .... Tai, Bomber and Scotty are on the same level as Davey Watt but Crumpy and the Deadly duo are a few notches higher. ..... barring any falls or engine failures I can see Australia hitting 50 points in Event 2 .... Team GB at least 10 above the Czechs and Germany lucky to hit double figures. Australia 52 .... Team GB 39 .... Czechs 24 .... Germany 9

Tomasz Gollob has said in a Press Release after the meeting that he feels Poland should have qualified tonight for a number of reasons ..... 1 - They were on home advantage 2 - They never used a tactical ride / sub He also commented on the selection of Grzegorz Walasek who only managed 2 points all night and felt they should have selected a rider that would have scored better on a Polish track and then replaced by Kasprzak for the race off / final ....... So he feels they would have been better with ..... Lukasz Sowka

NOTE; Anyone that had JANUSZ KOLODIEJ as a selection scored 1 points as PEPE PROTASIEWICZ took his place and predicted score GAVAN; In event 2 you have selected DARCY WARD .... If he doesnt ride his replacement takes his place in your team ... not Holder NOTE; No previous posts can be edited and selections made for Event 2 can NOT be changed SCORES FROM EVENT ONE RUSSIA; 4 = Emil Sayfutdinov -3 = Grigory Laguta 1 = Atrem Laguta 5 = Roman Povazhny POLAND; 1 = Tomasz Gollob -6 = Grzegorz Walasek 1 = Pepe Protasiewicz / Janusz Kolodiej 3 = Maciej Janowski USA; 4 = Greg Hancock -4 = Billy Hamill -2 = Ryan Fisher 1 = Ricky Wells DENMARK; -1 = Neils K Iversen -1 = Leon Madsen 0 = Michael J Jensen 2 = Mikkel B Jensen LEADERBOARD ........ so far ! ...... only Top 16 go through to the race off and final !! 12 ... noggin 12 ... Fudge 10 ... Diddy 9 ..... spook 9 ..... Hilly 9 ..... homer 8 ..... Gavan 8 ..... Racers and Royals 7 ..... RobbieB 6 ..... samthepalaceman 6 ..... refereerick 5 ..... Bomber Hammer 5 ..... skittle face 4 ..... Arson Fire 4 ..... Panther89 4 ..... Pantherman 4 ..... MattK ......................................... 3 ..... Pandorum 3 ..... Impartial One 2 ..... CJ69 2 ..... mdmc82 1 ..... TNT 1 ..... Diamonds Rock 1 ..... PTW 0 ..... JCookie 0 ..... Rico 0 ..... screm -1 ... WilliamFJ -1 ... Danish Webmaster -1 ... Jamie E -1 ... Gray -2 ... Superstar1 -2 ... Iceman -4 ... Brummie Kev -4 ... Jonesy the Wolf -7 ... dontforgetthefueltapsbruv -8 ... Speedy den boy -12 ... DeeksYaMahaga

Firstly ....... The tactical ride / sub ride has to be changed in a few ways A team should be EIGHT points behind when they use the joker A team should be allowed to make either a TAC SUB or a TAC RIDE ..... but not at the same time. .... They can use both in a meeting but using two different riders. That off my chest, thought Russia could push for 2nd tonight, but thought Poland would still win .... had it not been for the TAC SUB/RIDE used by Emil, Poland would have won by a point over Denmark with Russia 3rd on 32. ...... (bang went my£10 four fold bet @ 10/1 ) Its a shame Germany were not in this one instead of USA as now Czech or Germany will be last in the race off where as USA would have deserved an extra meeting and made it a better line up Denmark have to bring in Nicki Pedersen now, sadly for Mikkel B Jensen and leave them with their best four riders at present ..... Poland have to bring in Kasprzak for Walasek and both teams will fight it out for the last place in the final with Sweden, Russia and Australia. .... sorry Brits but I cant see anything but a distant 3rd in Mallila.

This years top 8 should be (in any order) 01 - Greg Hancock 02 - Chris Holder 03 - Jason Crump 04 - Nicki Pedersen 05 - Tomasz Gollob 06 - Fredrik Lindgren 07 - Emil Sayfutdinov 08 - Andreas Jonsson Wild Cards (almost certain) 09 - Jarek Hampel ........ due to injuries in 2012 10 - Darcy Ward ............ no brainer 11 - Tai Woffinden ........ The only Brit that can be selected GP Challenge Qualifiers 12 - 13 - 14 - Final Wild Card Nomination 15 - Martin Vaculik .............. If he fails to qualify For me its pretty obvious who is going to fill 12 of the 15 places, its now sit back and see who qualifies ...... should Vaculik qualify from the GP Challenge then it would be a suprise to see the rider finishing 4th from the GPC going through also Wouldn't mind Madsen, MJJ or Watt qualifying, but can see Kasprzak, Iversen and Lindback being spoilers Either way, this wouldn't be too far off the top 15 riders

That would be great All we have to do now is find someone that owns a track, lets them practice whenever they want (free of charge), be dedicated and professional, be guided by experts (not family members or friends), take free time to help promote their sponsors, realise they are always learning and not think they are the new Rickardsson after a few wins etc etc When we do that ..... it could happen (if they are not in Magaluf for a drinking holiday)

So the final 16 sees NO BRITS ........ They may as well tell TAI WOFFINDEN now to get ready for 2013

heat 20 features Smolinski, Zengota, Kildemand and Madsen

PLEASE NOTE; ...... Only the top 16 will feature in the Play-Offs and Final So once the 2 rounds have been completed, I will post a list of the finalists and new predictions for the riders set to compete in the following rounds. ..... so you will have to be quick and post if you make it through.

SHEFFIELD (July 5): Tai Woffinden, Lewis Bridger, Ben Barker, Olly Allen, Simon Stead, Ricky Ashworth, Richard Lawson, Lee Complin, Andrew Tully, Richard Hall, James Wright, Chris Schramm, Derek Sneddon, Adam Roynon, Carl Wilkinson, Kyle Howarth. RYE HOUSE (July 7): Edward Kennett, Chris Harris, Scott Nicholls, Danny King, Stuart Robson, David Howe, Robert Mear, Josh Auty, Craig Cook, Leigh Lanham, Jordan Frampton, Chris Mills, Simon Lambert, Ritchie Hawkins, Luke Bowen, Jason Bunyan Richie Worrall Reserves: Kyle Newman, Is it 7 go through from each semi and then two Wild Card nominations ? If it is 7 each, then those are the 7 I think will get through although Lee Complin and Andrew Tully could be in with an outside chance at Owlerton ...... Craig Cook, Richie Worrall and Robert Mear at Rye House. Can see at least 1 Wild Card being the rider who finishes 8th at Rye

Hoping tactical rides pay off ! 12 Emil Sayfutdinov, 9 Grigory Laguta, 12 Greg Hancock (captain), 6 Billy Hamill, ======================== 5 Martin Smolinski (captain), 6 Josef Franc, 6 Matej Kus. 10 Tai Woffinden,

The Speedway World Team Cup is nearly upon us as the GP Series takes a short break. To make it a bit more interesting, I have decided to set up this JUST FOR FUN competition. Each rider has a predicted score next to his name for the qualifying rounds. You must select any 4 riders from each meeting who you feel will do better than the score I have given them. If a rider is given a predicted score of 11 and they score 15, you score 4 points You will then have to try and qualify for the next round with only the Top 16 making it through to the next round where you pick a fresh four riders for the race off and Final ad its then a straight run for the title So here are your predicted scores for the first rounds ...... pick your 4 riders from EACH meeting. 2012 FIM MONSTER ENERGY SPEEDWAY WORLD CUP TEAMS: EVENT ONE, BYDGOSZCZ (Poland), JULY 7: Referee: Jim Lawrence (Great Britain) RUSSIA (RED): 28 12 Emil Sayfutdinov, 9 Grigory Laguta, 5 Artem Laguta, 2 Roman Povazhny (captain). Team Manager: Oleg Kurguskin. POLAND (BLUE): 35 11 Tomasz Gollob (captain), 8 Grzegorz Walasek, 8 Janusz Kolodziej, 8 Maciej Janowski. Team Manager: Marek Cieslak. UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (WHITE): 24 12 Greg Hancock (captain), 6 Billy Hamill, 4 Ryan Fisher, 2 Ricky Wells. Team Manager: Richard Child. DENMARK (YELLOW): 33 11 Niels-Kristian Iversen (captain), 9 Leon Madsen, 8 Michael Jepsen Jensen, 5 Mikkel B Jensen. Team Manager: Anders Secher. EVENT TWO, KING’S LYNN (Great Britain), JULY 9: Referee: Marek Wojaczek (Poland) GERMANY (RED): 12 5 Martin Smolinski (captain), 4 Kevin Wolbert, 1 Max Dilger, 2 Tobias Kroner. Team Manager: René Schäfer. CZECH REPUBLIC (BLUE): 23 7 Lukas Dryml, 4 Ales Dryml (captain), 6 Josef Franc, 6 Matej Kus. Team Manager: Milan Spinka. GREAT BRITAIN (WHITE): 37 10 Chris Harris (captain), 10 Scott Nicholls, 10 Tai Woffinden, 7 Danny King. Team Manager: Neil Middleditch. AUSTRALIA (YELLOW): 48 12 Jason Crump (captain), 13 Chris Holder, 13 Darcy Ward, 10 Davey Watt. Team Manager: Mark Lemon. Should your rider be replaced before the meeting, his replacement WILL take his place ALL points scored in the meetings WILL count, even tactical joker rides. NOTE; No posts predictions should be made or edited after 6pm on SATURDAY 7th July when the first match takes place ....... any post that breaks this rule will be eliminated HAVE FUN ....... Make your selections

HILLY ...... By order of the jury RULES ARE RULES ........ You posted too late ...... NIL POINTS in Gorzow !

They always say the cream will always find its way to the top ........ now it has LEADERBOARD after Gorzow 129 = T.N.T. ........... :party: 126 = mdmc82 119 = noggin 115 = dontforgetthefueltapsbruv 115 = Rico 112 = cj69 108 = Pantherman 106 = beercellar 102 = iceman 99 = Screm 98 = Diamonds Rock 98 = Mark246 96 = DUKEY BOY 96 = DeeksYaMahaga 95 = JCookie 94 = WillamFJ 94 = PhillipsSR 92 = Homer 92 = Racers and Royals 89 = Brummie Kev 86 = refereerick 84 = dump the clutch 82 = Hilly 80 = Gray 79 = Psycho3a 72 = Bomber Hammer 67 = Bandits4Life 66 = Waihekeaces 65 = Gavan 65 = SCB 63 = Kiwi 60 = Smiles 57 = JamieE 56 = Stilton Panther 39 = beesboybert 23 = White Rabbit 23 = Mark 19 = PTW 11 = Hunty the Brummie 10 = Cockney Pirate 6 = Steve R 4 = Starman2006 -2 = mark evans -3 = Diddy -4 = Full Throttle -4 = Woz01 -7 = Comet10 -9 = WTM -10 = Bandits4Eva -11 = Kris Ad -14 = Baz Brush -15 = Patto25 -17 = Superguest With a break now for the World Team Cup, look out for another thread to have a WTC Prediction Game Until then ................... Catch me if you can !!!!!

Done the scores for the last 2 rounds and will update the leader board tomorrow DENMARK; Best Scores were ...... 33pts by NOGGIN ..... 30pts by WILLIAMFJ and DIAMONDS ROCK ..... 28pts by PANTHERMAN ...... 27pts by MDMC82 and DONTFORGETTHEFUELTAPSBRUV and DUKEY BOY Worst Scores were ...... -3pts by KIWI ...... -1pt by GAVAN ....... 1pt by DEEKSYAMAHAGA GORZOW; Best Scores were ...... 39pts by TNT ..... 37pts by DONTFORGETTHEFUELTAPSBRUV ......... (Awaiting verdict) .. 33pts by HILLY Worst Scores were ...... -3pts by WILLIAMFJ ....... 2pts by DIAMONDS ROCK ....... 4pts by GRAY and SMILES

Rules are rules ,,,,,,,,, however As you may have posted at 6.00pm but it came on at 6.01pm then I could go three ways ..... but others get a say to be fair. The first proposal to get 3 votes listed below will be the verdict of the jury PROPOSAL 1 ......... One minute isn't too bad, let it stand (this time) PROPOSAL 2 .......... As you did post late (even by one minute), you WILL score the points gained or lost by the riders ..... but you will NOT get the 10 points for posting PROPOSAL 3 ........... TOUGH ..... You had over a week to post and you leave it to the last seconds .... NIL POINTS !! First to get 3 votes wins Personally I think proposal 2 sounds best

Looking forward to this meeting with Vaculik and Zmarzlik in the line up Will be having a day off work for the first time for 2 weeks on Sunday so I will do the updated scores then REMEMBER no posts or edits will be accepted once the Sky proramme starts at 6pm