MrMungo

I believe the top riders like Doyle will still be 'allowed' to ride in the UK, it would just be on very high averages, something like 14.00.

The <rumoured> 50pt points limit is based on PL averages. EL averages will be a thing of the past if it gets the go ahead.

I heard the same not so long ago. Fun times ahead!

Love him or loathe him, Matt Ford certainly gets the Poole name out there. On the country music channel of all places! Apologies for digressing. Feel free to talk about Kyle Newman's average again.

Can't see Mildenhall, Plymouth and Edinburgh making the move up, to be honest.

It was very poor taste, no doubt. The worst of it all, is that it was 100% totally pointless. There have been other situations in the past; Loram/Screen as mentioned before, but the one that sticks out for me is Vojens '96 - again involving the yanks! Without that interference, I am convinced Nielsen would have been world champion. Whilst you could never ever condone such actions, there was a world title at stake. But Hancock was well, words fail me. I don't know the ins and outs of the rule book, but would love it if there was an option of docking points being added in the future to try and prevent such instances happening again. It may just make a few of these guys think.

There are some riders who perform better in PL opposed to EL (Sarjeant, Nielsen), and others who perform better in EL as opposed to PL (Bates, Newman). There are always going to be quirks. If you want to create a fair average/grading list, you'd probably have to take both leagues into account. It's just amusing how so many people jump on Newman's back simply because he rides for Poole, but hardly anything gets said about Bates who is doing practically the same for Coventry. Double standards anyone?

£10000 is the cost of the promotional licence, as per Redcar's notes.

Stashes of money in regards to clubs or as a sport as a whole? There is money in the sport, just not a lot in running a speedway club! https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/04703061/filing-history

45.00 was back when BPs counted towards averages. Even though 45.00 (with BPs) is higher than 40.00 (without BPs) the difference is not as vast as it sounds.

I heard a whisper it could go as low down as 36

The aforementioned "Families Steel stockholding business" has "93199 - Other Sport Activities" listed as the nature of the business, which is interesting....

All clubs will have to file Accounts, but their trading name is not always obvious. Plymouth, for example, trade(d) as Peninsula Promotions Ltd, which isn't exaclty the first name you would expect. Others may form a similar pattern. The information is out there though, just may take a bit of time to find it in some cases.

The available figures are all there on Companies House site - if the accounts have been filed! Not all clubs appear to remember to do that.... (Go Speed) https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07107559/filing-history

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03369723/filing-history/MzE1OTU5MjQyNmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0

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That was an option earlier on in the year until Plymouth was saved back in April.

I would suggest that is because he is riding for his local club at Poole. There are some riders who just perform that bit better, able to find that extra 5%, when riding for their local club. There has certainly never been a lack of effort as far as his efforts for Plymouth are concerned; not from what I have seen at least. It's worth remembering that Newman has never been a number 1 in the PL. I think his highest average has been around 7. It just so happens he's able to find his best form for Poole. If it was any other club in the country, most people wouldn't give a rat's ass!

Ipswich voted to leave.

I know of one rider, who you know well, who had his contract terminated (ie, sacked), because he had to go to a presentation evening, and due to the distances involved was not able to go into work. Speedway and 'regular' work just does not work well together. The best a rider can hope for is to be either self-employed, work temporarily in the off-season, or to work part time (or ad hoc) and hope for a supportive employer!

PL pay. I meant reserves coming up from NL, ie 3 point reserves. Sorry for the confusion!

Reserves from NL generally can expect to get £40 per point, with very little in terms of add ons at many clubs (ie, methanol, tyre, insurance, etc paid for by the club) unless the rider rides for Glasgow. Top reserve is normally £50-55 with expected add ons. Second strings are usually a bit on top of that, but will sometimes depend on the team structure. A rider may accept a little less than normal if it is likely they will get a run at reserve. Heat leaders can range a lot - they tried to limit it to £55 p/point a few seasons back but that just resulted in some 'alternative' payments. Heat leaders are high end double figures, triple figures in some cases. As mentioned earlier, there are a lot of other things to consider, ie other payments, which often include additional travel money if the rider is based a long way from their home track. All figures are nett, so need to add 20% VAT if a rider is VAT registered too.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if Swindon start next season on the 'big' track, and finish the season on the 'small' track

Re: 4, Since many (okay, most) riders in the EL also ride (and have a 'true' average) in the PL, maybe it would be an idea to use the PL averages. For those who don't have a current PL average, which is not many, use the standard conversion rate.

Hope it all goes well Jonas