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LOL. With Diesel at 1.50 ish per litre, entrance monies how much at Stoke this season ? thats the point, I wont pay to see an under strength Team, thats MY POINT, and it IS as pointed out MANY times a Challenge so i did my bit i went to the Home leg, but as is my perogative I wont be travelling up to Stoke, when money is tight.

What a great idea Berniev, Yes i am all for that, after all we dont want a one sided un competitive meeting Do we? and as other posters have pointed out, it is ONLY a Challenge and doesnt really matter in the big picture. Or perhaps another suggestion perhaps we could name an 8th rider to cover when Royno or Tom are unavailable, such as OUR hosts have done, maybe even re -declare with different riders for different meetings, after all it seems the rules are bent or stretched meeting after meeting, all in the name of competitivness. What are the rules on Loan signings?, perhaps we could even loan sign a rider for certain meetings. You have to be careful when you start opening Cans, they may well contain Worms, possibly even Snakes, and as most of us know, they can come back and Bite you.

Youth League, yes its just a pity Dudley Management didnt want to join Midlands amateur League, this was something many supporters wanted to see, but management didnt seem to consider it.

In which case thats pretty poor fixture planning, i will have to think twice about going myself, though i probably will, yes with a little bit more foresight we can probably cover for Royno, someone of the ilk of cameron heeps would do, but to cover for Tom with RR, that is just one to much, so i can only see a win for The Potters, or perhaps Stoke will use Adam Mckinna, and we will borrow Richie Worral to cover Royno. .

Comments Vog from a slightly biased Heathens view, first we dropped points when Dan Greenwood came down, IMO that was unfortunate Ben Reade could just as easily have been excluded for maybe taking Dans line., Ashley Morris had one of those nights, and Daryl Ritchings didnt seem his usual comfortable self, after he said he seemed down on power all night, JWW twice was overtaken from the back again his bike seemed welll slow early on, so i will take the positives from that,and see room for optimism from them, Boris, Tom Pom and Royno,all rode as expected,and there was some good racing especially from the latter two riders. For Stoke, i would guess AB was slightly dissapointed with his points return,had one EF when leading, as was JP who had an up and down night, Tony again was probably disapointed with his return, just wasnt making any starts, OG scored up to his average, RW far and away your best rider, unluckily had some problem in i think his second race went from 1st to just holding on to 3rd, may have been a punture, good races between RW and AR and expect close races between these two whenever they are down to meet, DB IMO he is not up to NL Standard though his equipment shall we say, leaves a lot to be desired, on this performance cant see him lasting long, BR rider of the night for me, impressive, which about says it all for young Ben. All in all a fair result, could have gone either way, is it enough of a lead ? i would like to think so, but on the other hand we could well get a good hiding like last year, or we could defend this narrow lead with Royno leading from the front, the reason i say that is I can see 5 riders in The Heathens Team who have room for improvement, and have the ability to do so, some more than others.

as far as i am aware OLD sparky, the old boundaries still exist, and at least we dont have to rely on Gas lighting like they do at loomer road. Also I am told the BSPA have introduced a new piece of equipment specially for meetings at Stoke the riders have to wear Miners Lights on there Helmets, so as they can see where they are going. lol. and Tatum can save on his electric bill.

After all the Chatter, it wont make any difference cuz theres only ONE speedway Team in The NL in Staffordshire, and it aint The Clayheads Its the Team from Monmore Wood, and the Team who,s gonna win tonight, thats right guys, its the Heathens.

OFFICIALLY ITS ON. The Suns out here in Dudley, bugger the weather, bring it on, I will be starting out in 30 mins.

Hope u r right Lozza, its been half an hour since i posted, and though its not heavy stuff, its still coming down here in Dudley, You are closer than me, you should drive across and let us know mate Well shows what i know, according to this pic on The Heathens site, it seems dry as a bone at 5-30/17-30. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dudley-Heathens/233965274365

Seems as though the rain is settling in now, beginning to look doubteful.

Its a Challenge <yes> is it a Challenge to see how far we can bend rules, is it a Challenge to see if Stoke can win?, There is winning, and winning,Oh and while Im at it theres Whining, Yes i am whining before, not after the meeting, but is Winning at ANY cost the motive here ?, Yes i Know Rhys is injured, Stoke already have a competitive Top 4, so the meeting will be competitive, in any case, but to use another Teams rider, when there are youngsters desperately looking for rides,? There is only 1 explanation, win,win,win,win,win,. shame on you, yes I hope you are Proud of yourself.

Yes, so why NOT use an unattached rider ?

This is taken from the Dudley site, and they have Oliver Greenwood down to ride tonight as Stoke No4, http://www.dudleyhea....php?extend.492 Im not sure how it works, yes you can use a guest for a No1, but as i understood it you used to be able to use an unattached or 3 point rider to cover injuries to others, but by signing an injured rider, and then covering him with another of supposedly equal ability, does leave the system open ??. But with this use of Olly Greenwood plus the addition of Adam Mckinna to the "squad?" the rules seem to be being stretched somewhat, but hey this is Speedway, and what goes around comes around.

So, when may we expect to see Stoke track there declared 7 ?, ie Olly Greenwood is better than Rhys Naylor, so will we be seing Olly in Stoke colours every time Scunny arent riding ? or am i just being dubious minded. . Yes i know its within the rules, but is it in the spirit of them ? There are riders out there on 3.00 averages desperate to gain rides and experience, but NO we will go with another Teams rider, Even for challenge matches, Mr Vasey stated there were some decent prospects coming through, surely Challenge matches is the way to give them track time.

Yes, i am expecting a close meeting both at West Row, and at Monmore Wood, I would expect Dudley to line up something like, 1. Adam Roynon <C> 2. James White Williams 3. Byron Becker 4. Tom Perry 5, Ashley Morris 6. Daryll Ritchings 7. Daniel Greenwood I am expecting These two Teams, along with Stoke to be pushing for the Honours in the NL in 2012, However back to the Shield meetings, The Heathens have added a little bit of gating ability this season in AR, BB, and JWW, added to the Tenacious Tom Pom Perry, and Heat Leader Ashley Morris, they are backed up by Rider of the year 2011 Daryll Ritchings and newcomer and former Under 15 Champ Daniel Greenwood, all in all The Heathens have a team packed with Potential and Ability from Top to Bottom, and i feel they owe the fans something after a dissapointing 2011 season. For Mildenhall, they to have a good all round strength, from Top to Bottom, and are ably led by the aussie Whiz kid Cameron Heeps, but asked for my opinion, I would suggest The Heathens have the better reserve strength, and this may just give them the edge, however I wouldnt put money on it, as it could go either way, I could see Dudley winning at Mildenhall, and Mildenhall winning at Dudley, thats how close this will be.

Its non of my business, but Danny S has said they couldnt agree terms, is that Mr T being a Tight ass again ?, definately Danny <spike>Stoneman deserves a NL team spot somewhere, a great guy a better rider that Dan Berwick, and more potential to improve, this would IMO have given Stoke a better bottom end, which surely is what they want, Good luck Danny boy, and i still think we may see you at Monmore Wood, dont know why just a feeling, even if it is against us. The Pony Tailed one has missed a trick here me-thinks.

Ash Has as good chance as anyone, but can throw in the odd bad gate, Tom, well if Tom could put in 4 reasonable gates he would have a chance, but can he ?, and first Tom has to qualify from the Semi Finals at Stoke,Richie Worrall or Jason Garrity would be my idea of the Champ, with Jerran Hart as the spoiler, also we have the 2 Kyles Howarth who is flying at the moment, and Newman, so on second thoughts i wont make a choice except to say, the winner will come from those mentioned The format is 20 Heats, Semi Final and Final, with the Top 2 scorers going through to the final, and 3rd place thru to 6th place, riding in a semi final race off, with the first two going into the final with the top two scorers to contest the Championship race off, so there is room to put in a bad race, and still qualify, i reckon around 9 points will see you into the semi final. Waco, its easy to get to the Track from the Britannia Hotel £29 on Booking.com in fact i am sure someone would even be kind enough to give you a lift, should you wish it, but if its a nice evening, i think it would be around a 20/25 minute walk from there maybe less.

If i recall, The Dream Teams Fixtures were something like Stoke, Weymouth, Sittingbourne, Mildenhall, Newport,Buxton, Armadale, and i think some of the guys took in secong halves at Oxford and Coventry, and maybe even had a spin round Sheffield Not sure about the Buxton fixture, but the rest are 100% correct.

I would be very tempted to go for Lee Smart, has been riding in a few amateur meetings to keep his hand in, and he doesnt have a PL team, so from what i recall he can therefore ride NL, but not 100% sure about that one, it could suit both parties, ie Lee would get the rides to put him in the shop window, and Islanders would get there short term No1 replacement to cover Nick.

Whoops my mistake Bryn, but still the point i am making is, i am sure the supporters would like to know is Ben riding, or is Luke riding, or is it to be a new signing, or will it be two new signings?.

You know i cant believe here we are just over a month away from the start of the NL Season, and team Buxton have not announced there full line up, i dont know if you have season tickets up there, but if you do,it certainly wont help boost the sales of them. I know if i were a supporter of Buxton i wouldnt be very happy with this delayed announcement. Maybe when the first meeting comes around there will be three blank spaces in the program for the three unannounced riders,

Yes this availability for 16 meetings has only come to light recently, I have never been aware of it, and to my knowledge, has never been publicly stated before, lack of support will NOT be a valid reason, indeed most Heathens fans would want more meetings rather than less, whatever the reason, then it needs to be looked at, as i think a planned minimum of 16meetings + plus P, Offs and KO Cups, would be more realistic, once again in my opinion Promoters have failed to realise, once supporters get out of the habit, its not easy to get them back, Tuesday night is Heathens Night or maybe once again, we should have a few meetings at Perry Barr .

The problem is, When wolves speedway ran a Conference side people saw it as junior or inferior racing, same at Coventry, Poole, Newport, Armadale, Belle Vue, Rye House to a point, KL struggle to attract crowds, its not the product its the perception. If Newport solely had British League racing <NL> yes the crowds would be down, but i still think it would survive, such as what Stoke did in 2011.

Maybe then there should be an alternative to the BSPA, i really like the idea of PL Teams wanting to drop down, and if the League was run correctly, i can see more teams doing that. such as Newport, it wouldnt be a great disaster if they followed Stoke into the NL, ie the Provincial League and the National League in the early sixties, why not call it the "British League" after all that is what this is really all about, encouraging BRITISH riders, the name is on the Tin.

Nigels reply is that we only have Monmore available for 16 meetings, now i have never been aware that this was the case, April to October roughly 28 weeks, of which we can use the Track 16 times. I hope the reason isnt to do with the greyhounds, because almost every Tuesday Monmore have Dog trialling sessions, so that cant be a valid reason for only having 16 meetings, so at a guess it must be a contractual thing