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Great away win for The Heathens, thanks to Ashley Birks for covering Royno, maximum from him, tremendous Team performance, this weekend will go a long way to us gaining a play off spot, but nowt is won in june, so keep up the momentum guys. Daniel Greenwood what can i say kiddo 2 years out paid for what 22/23 from 8 programed rides away from home on possibly 2 of the trickiest away tracks, well done. Thanks to all the staff up at Buxton for getting this meeting on despite all the rain thats been around over the week.

I think you mean riders, not just A rider.

Cheers Vog, was looking at a earlier program, and had not realised it had been changed.

Great win by the Heathens, good all round Team performance, biggest difference between the 2 Teams was at reserve, where The Heathens scored 15 points and The Raiders only 2 points, interesting to note Tom Perry scored almost as many in the PL <5> meeting as what he scored in the NL meeting <6>. Cant see there much chance of the Buxton meeting going ahead tomorrow, i think the next one will be Stoke away next Saturday, if this ridiculous weather eases off.

It wouldnt be to bad a crowd against The Brummies and Coventry either Kev . No need for an EL when those Teams are around, Throw in Leicester and Swindon, and that would be a mouth watering prospect for a Midland League.

Take a look at my avtar Shadds, thats a normal Dudley crowd for home meetings, i am somewhere middle right

Yeah, 4 i think; Daniel 2, Ash, and Byron, we need to iron these out, they could cost us eventually, but a big well done to both teams.

Jeez, come on Bspa give our young riders some incentive to progress in the Sport, there should have been three Qualifiers for the British Finals, so easy to arrange, but NO, the Bspa in its wisdom carry on with their heads in the clouds, as they have done for years, if it aint broke then dont fix it, but if it IS broken and its been apparent it has been not only broken, but Demolished then try something different, try something new. Richie Worall, Steve Worall, Ash Birks, Joe Haines,Jason Garrity,Kyle Newman,Tom Perry possibly 1 or 2 others should have been included in another third qualifier, which could even have been held at a NL only Track ie Mildenhall, Stoke, IOW. We have to give these young British riders some encouragement to progress in British Speedway, but the powers that be seem incapable of doing something new, and just bumble along with the same old,same old. I have been made personally aware that members of the Bspa DO read this forum, so why dont they put in place some form of "group" to investigate the way British Speedway can move forward, and re establish itself as a World player once again, begin by changing the format for these British Qualifiers.

How can it be a semi final, when Richie Worall is not in the field, whoever selected this field aint got a clue, On current form he is perfectly able and capable of winning this meeting. Were this the Danish,Polish, Sweden or Australian Final i am sure this wouldnt be allowed to happen.

No objections whatsoever against Garrity riding in the NL, he is attemting to make the step up to PL and needs the confidence boost and regular track time the NL rides will give him, after all its not as if the guy is a PL Heat leader, YET.

It is anything but pointless, it shows he cares for his Team, and he is right Buxton are a rider short of being competitive, however i think the answer from Jayne and Jack may be, Buxton cannot sign Steve Jones due to the 1 rider over 30 rule.

Firstly i would like to thank Midland Robin for taking the time to give his explanation above. Financial support for riders is difficult to implement, especially at NL level, because as MR pointed out, it is not wise to give this to a particular rider as other riders could maybe think why is he favoured over me?. Then the Club could also say we support him because he is OUR asset. Track Spare is where i would see the best form of help available to all the riders, and not an overly expensive cost at that, especially when set off against Tax, and we have good guy out there to set it up in Janno. As i said elsewhere it is all well and good if a rider borrows a bike from another rider ie Ashley Morris lent Daniel Greenwood his for a race, but what happens if the said borrowed Bike is damaged ?, then the unlucky rider has not only his bike to repair, but the Bike he borrowed to repair also, now if it were a track spare, then the repair and upkeep can be carried by The Promotion or whoever. The rider concerned can invest his spare cash into his own No1 machinery knowing full well there is a track spare available, and he doesnt have to split his hard earned cash between buying and maintaining two bikes, which he can possibly ill afford to do. The advantage of a Track spare is also that it is available to ALL the riders, is not seen as favouritism, and other tracks cant possibly view it as The Heathens throwing money around to buy whatever success they may or may not achieve, indeed it is giving valuable additional support to there riders on Track, in helping the Heathens riders to achieve the points return that there talents deserve, and giving success to the supporters without whom none of it would be achievable. Yes, HSSC do a fantastic job, and i am sure supporters and riders alike appreciate all of the hard work put in throughout the 12 months of the year.

I will repeat again it seems that its definately Time for The Heathens management,to consider investing in a Track spare, Dan, only has one bike, Darryl cant afford better equipment, jeez just look at the crowds again this season, reguarly 1000 I wish they could try to help the riders out rather than giving it to the Tax man. Whilst i have my opinions, We are eternally grateful for CVS and Gary, Nigel P, and Wolverhampton Speedway, without whom we wouldnt have any Speedway to watch.

great meeting some excellent racing, i wouldnt say The Fen Tigers were Ommered, they were beat, but not beaten, in the early stages the Heathens built up a useful lead, but led by Nathan Stoneman, people rave about 15 year old Cameron Heeps, but boy this kid aint far behind, not afraid to get stuck in, one for the future most definately. The Fen Tigers gradually pegged back the Heathens, kept the tie alive right up until the last few heats. Cant do a full report, Im cream crackered finished a 12 hour shift,shot over to Monmore, but well done to both Teams, and hope JJ aint to badly injured.

And if i recall, last week on updates at KL v The Heathens in the NL, it said riders struggled early on, something about to much grip..there maybe a point coming to the fore here, are the youngsters not used to having shale on a Track ??.

Just checking what i said earlier about NL prospects, Ben Reade and Tom Young, just to say Tom has beaten both Richie Worall and Adam Roynon at Scunthorpe this year, that in itself is NO mean feat, is he ready for the PL? well he wont be any worse than Franchetti.

Paper doesnt win matches though june, riders do, and think ahead to 12 months from now, we will be minus Adam, your "Kids" will have 12 months more experience, which is why maybe i thought we should have gone with another 3 pointer, but the majority of fans didnt want that, they prefered to have Daryll at reserve, my opinion for what it is worth is it always best long term to try and go with two "kids" at reserve, as you have done, this will bring continuity to the teams. We next season will have to have a new No1 and possibly at least another 1 "kid" remember you also have Olly Greenwood to come in, who i notice by the way, was born just up the road from us .

Ksiesak alone may not change the situation, but what about a double change for JH & GF what points would that give you ?, for instance RK for JH would it leave you with another 3+ rider or still only a 3 pointer. Looking at Ksiezaks average and his australian form,it seems to me he and JH are about the same ability, i dont see the need to make change for changes sake, but maybe sacrificing JH to get a higher average reserve may be the way to go, or indeed perhaps RK would be that reserve.

Your reserves problem, or should i say reserve problem ie Franchetti 2 riders in the NL who have really come on this year are Ben Read and Tom Young, Tom is practically unrecognisable from last year, are they ready for the PL?, well they certainly wouldnt allow a rider to fall, and then catch and beat them that really should be the end when that happens.

Well done to Scunny for giving The Heathens a tremendous fight, and i think you could rightly maybe claim a moral victory, well done to our guys for hanging on in there, and being in a position in the end to be in a position to claim the points when luck went our way. Yes, we were missing Tom P, but Scunny were missing Steve Worall, and couldnt track Tom Young <unbeaten> for Ht 15, so for Dudley to say they werent lucky is being somewhat blinkered IMO. I myself prefer to say the scoring of Daniel Greenwood is papering over some cracks at the moment. Thats my opinion and i am sticking with it, if others opinion differs then thats there perogative.

Bob, your opinion so fair enough, up until KL at home we have had riders not on it, as the modern terminology is. They were and they wont mind me saying so, Byron Bekker, Daryll Ritchings, and JWW who won his first race at Monmore Wood last Tuesday, so on Sunday and next Tuesday we will see if these three riders are back on song. Myself i think we just have the edge over Stoke, there success story has been Ben Reade, otherwise they may have struggled, but an injury to Jamie Pickard hasnt helped. Mildenhall or us, i am not sure, i will have a better idea after next week, but to be sure there doesnt seem to be much between the 3 Teams.

Nothing is won Leaguewise in May , so there is one here not counting any Chickens. One thing i omitted to mention earlier was well done to Ashley Morris for lending his bike to Dan Greenwood, when Dans bike packed up on the line in his last race.. Which brings me onto a topic i have often thought about, years ago Teams used to have a Track spare Bike, it appears Daniel only has one bike <Finances> I know he did three jobs just to be able just to buy a Bike to get back in to the Sport. The Heathens have to be one of the most profitable Teams in British Speedway, and these youngsters put all of there spare money into maintaing Bikes, WHY dont The Heathens invest in a Track spare ? no need for a GP standard Bike, but one that is adequate for the job intended. I am No accountant but i would guess this could be claimed back from HMIR, everyone would gain, the rider, the team, the supporters. Seeing the Heathens crowds which seem slightly up, it should be something messrs Pearson, CVS and Patchet should consider, and are well able to afford. Come on management dont be so stingy... Hmmm, and Byron is 2 years younger than JWW, and Royno is 23.They are our elder statesmen, the rest are Teenagers, dear oh dear we have a team of golden oldies, I am sure the average age of the Heathens compares favourably with most other NL Teams.

I have just looked at the next round Semi Finals The Heathens and IOW semi finals are being held on the 12th June & 3rd July, the other Semi Mildenhall v Stoke when ?, one leg is being held on the 26th August the other has not yet been agreed, I think it is a ridiculous situation especially when the last round was ridden on May 2nd, that is more than 3 months between rounds of the competition, that will mean if there is a rain off, we will be in to September, when its looking likely that at least 3 of these Teams, possibly all of them, will be into Semis, Finals, Play Offs, and 3 of them are also in the NT Trophy. Pee up and Brewery come to mind, to my way of thinking, the Semis should be done and dusted by the end of July thereby allowing the Final to be held during late August, early September. I believe here and now that there will be fixture congestion, and when you take in to account there are only 8 teams this is a ridiculous situation in prospect, poor poor fixture planning.

Hmmm, guess Tom will be speaking to himself out in the Ukraine, cant see many english speaking guys in that field with him, it will be a toughie for him, but all good experience, and there is no doubting he has the ability.

Cradley heath.the stadium was a dump, but the track was superb for racing, the Fans well for some they may be an aquired taste, ask Middlo . The Shay, great atmosphere. and i would say Blackbird Road.