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Saturday afternoons Bw ?.

Its not only about cutting 1 Heat, no-one believes that in itself makes or breaks a Team, there needs to be a whole package; Top of them HAS to be to cut costs for riders, combined with reduced costs for the promoters, this then HAS to be passed on to the supporters, cut out the delays between Heats, especially on re-runs, The 13 Heat formula with a 2nd half is a great Idea, if this can be done, especially if it includes Amateur League racing, especially if the reserves from each Team could be included. Free Admission for kids with a parent is a must.

Richard rode in a couple of rye House meetings late in 2012, then apparently Blew the only engine he had, so dropped out.

I have an idea Jamie Pickard is from Hagley, for those who dont know, just a few miles 3or4 South West of Dudley.

following on from the announcement of NL racing returning to Coventry, the rumours about Leicester joining the EL persist, if that were to happen, i would not be at all surprised to see Leicester go for an NL Team, what with Dudley, Coventry and Leicester, there would be some mouth watering clashes in prospect, this is only my thoughts, but i think it would be do-able.

This seems the most likely area to post the following; http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/National-League-return-frame-Devils/story-17197410-detail/story.html So if it is to remain Mike Bowdens Plymouth, NL racing seems to be the plan.

Well he certainly deserves a try, after being thrown on the Scrapheap, 1 meeting short of his new lower average, i really felt sorry for the kid. whats his average Vog ?.

Some good ideas there Vog, but remember we also need to get the costs down. The overall points limit has to be reduced, yes i know there will still be 90 points to race and be paid for, but as we are all aware some Teams pay over and above the agreed minimum rate, but a 5/6/7 average rider wont be paid more than an 8+ pointer surely ?. Definately to achieve this only 1 over the 8 in each team, will also help to distribute the Top riders, I dont want to see Dudley/Stoke with 2 X 8 pointers and Buxton & KL with none, 60 point home wins are not what its all about. Heat 15; there is no need for it. Peter Morrish is past his sell by date, bring in someone younger with fresh Ideas, possibly a Committee of three to oversee the running of the NL. The guest rule is far to Harsh, Yes by all means a Guest for your No1, but in addition you may use a guest for another injured rider only, but his current average has to be 2 points less than the rider he replaces, this ruling of only using a 3 point unattached 3 point rider is far,far to harsh, especially at the business end of the season, when a 3 pointer covers a 7/8/9 pointer.

Whats needed to improve or even save the NL in 2013 ?? I can see a points reduction ahead, and probably to allow a fairer share around of Heat leaders maybe only 1 rider in each Team over 8. Whats your thoughts guys on what is needed for the NL to continue ?. Trial four Heats of 1 lap sprints, during a meeting, and do away with Heat 15, which benefits top heavy Teams, reduce the 6 meetings to get a new average.

And It seems there is every likelihood that Plymouth if they run anywhere in 2013, would be NL. So it doesnt appear to be as bleak for the NL as what it seemed a few weeks ago.

Rami, dont get dragged into it mate; FT aint been around on here long but he is a one eyed Tigers fan. They aint in the NL for nowt, its about there level , and as for CL & ML well all i can say about them and there antics of requesting the use of Adam Ellis as there No 8, just to stop us using him. Then Lo and Behold Blackbird is fit enough to ride at KL, it just shows the level some will stoop to, and they accuse US of win at ALL costs . But Hey its all Dudleys fault. Just to re-iterate Dudley are NOT trying to get the result overturned, they have objected to Chris Louis being allowed into the Ref,s box, which has been pointed out, is against the rules. It appears that at Ipswich for the PLLC against Somerset the refs box had a padlock on, to keep certain officials OUT .

Jeez Mont, i know you aint keen on the Heathens, or me for that matter, but dont let it blind you, going into the 3rd Bend Nielsen was last, unless Royno has eyes up his ass, theres NO way Royno could realise Nielsen was that close, yes he expected someone coming round but, i think he was genuinly surprised to see Nielsen where he was, out wide Yes, but alongside NO. Oh by the way, i havent said either way, but to my eyes a racing incident.

Except Roynon didnt expect Nielsen to be there, and Nielsen was going for a gap between the Two, normal lines Nielsen would move out to the Fence, but he had cut back in.

Congratulations to Mildenhall, commiserations Heathens to say i am gutted is an understatement, more so for Royno, who yet again gets a serious injury he doesnt deserve.

Congratulations to Mildenhall. Heres the video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnXcwX7Nm5w

Except in this case it culminated in, 1 race & 1 Decision.

Hmmm i will await reports, a very confused ending, but seems Roynon injured again in the last Heat, I wont offer my congratulations Yet, not before i see a video of the meeting. Commiserations to The Heathens Riders, and My fellow Fans, this is hard to take.Think there will be lots of heated debate ahead.

That would be far more sensible, Than using a novice which Sean is.

its all about opinions, but mine differs greatly to yours. Yes a neutral Track, but cancelled out now by the loss of Tom Perry, effectively we now have 4 reserves, RR and 2 Heat leaders , can we hold you ? very possibly, what we cant afford is the loss of another rider tonight.

Yes there were a couple of things i missed off earlier, The 1st when there were riders & bikes lying on the track at the 1st & 2nd bends, the 2 remaining riders came round and the red lights were not put on, and it was only by LUCK no one else was hit and injured, and also as fourenteen pointed out Halsey had a little nudge in Heat 9, not Mr Reeves finest night, yes some cheered when riders fell,but were also applauded when they got up and cleared the Track, which happened every time except once, the rider got up and made no attempt to clear the Track and was roundly and rightly booed. Much will depend on what points the reserves score tonight, Tom Perry will be out, and if Adam Ellis can be persuaded thats if he is eligible to ride tonight, no other unattached rider will come any where near to Perrys points scoring. my assesment of the 2nd leg is if Ellis can cover The Heathens will win, if he cant,then it may well be a last Heat decider.

Well done to both Teams in extremely difficult conditions, wet & slippy Track, the Grand Final is set up for a tight 2nd leg, The Tigers threw points away for fun in the early Heats, with falls by Garrity & Bates when leading comfortably, then The Heathens were hit hard with the loss of Tom Perry with a suspected Broken Scaphoid, however Darryl Ritchings stepped up to the plate with 14 points from 7 rides, and Joe Jacobs led The Tigers resistance with 13 points, Will it be enough ?? it could well be, and i would say, we are slight favourites at even money, Mildenhall 5/4 against, but with Garrity, Nielsen,Jacobs, supported by Halsey and Bates, this Title is still there for the taking. 2nd Half still to come.

Yep, i agree wholeheartedly, 21st thats why i get frustrated when people keep saying The Heathens are favourites, it will come down to whohandles the conditions best, and who wants it most.

All this about The Heathens being favourites is absolute nonsense, Garrity, Nielsen, Jacobs are all at the TOP of there form, Halsey is an hot and cold rider, never know what you are going to get, Bates hopefully fully fit is a great prospect, and Terry-Daley is about the same as Jww. The Heathens Roynon, Perry, Morris the later two are not such good gaters as your guys, Greenwood not gating as well as earlier in the season,and Ritchings same applies to him as to Halsey, but from race to race. This is tooo close to call, there are no favourites now, it will be on THE night, I will be surprised if there are 10 points in this overall after the 2 legs.

So are you saying he isnt going to be beat ?

Thanks Phil, now as you all are aware, i have always said Mildenhall are favourites, this completely changes things around, because Kings Lynn will suit some of the Heathens riders much more than Mildenhall does, definately Tom Perry will for one, so now i will say there are NO favourites, and its either Teams to win, havent been to KL for about 20 years, that was on a lovely sunny sunday afternoon, i guess this will be a lot different .