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I think that they know they would be supported, maybe its down to the fact that there outgoings rider wise would be substantially more, so therefore the profitability would be massively less, its a catch 22 situation for them, stick or twist but whilst things are as they are supporters coming through the gates albeit looking down a little, they will stick. In my opinion it will take a massive show of supporter led persuasion to see things change and for us to go PL, not bcuz supporters dont want it, but because at least one of the promotion has said it is probably unviable. My own opinion is that the time has come for us to test the water, though when you look at the recent Plymouth announcement this will only add fuel to us staying in the NL. Its not only a case of being a big fish in a small pond, or a tiddler in the ocean, its that viability which is the all important factor, which the promotion know only to well, remember Swindon last year ?.

Yep i agree he could have used Clegg or/and Williamson, but Im never sure who can or who cant be used in Ht 15. I think in all 5 riders got maximums or paid max,s the other being Perry.

My first NL meeting this year due to logistics, it was actually worse than i expected, the first heat was competitive, there were maybe 2 others of interest ie Buxton did better than 3rd place, that was it. Even in the reserves races there were big gaps between riders, yes maybe its competitive in the broadest sense of the word, but its not exciting, a little word of advice for Ryan when he next comes to Monmore, ride the inside line, just as if its Buxton on a difficult day, he will find that its much easier, and better to let the guys behind do the risky stuff to get past.

I beg to differ on your opinion, Adam was never a problem when he rode for Cradley, always good with the fans, and a credit to the Sport, he maybe has had one injury to many, but still NO reason for him to get dropped at the present time, hopefully he will steer clear of injuries through 2014, and regain his best form, Sheffields loss could be someone elses gain, keep your chin up Adam, and good luck..

Yes we have some moronic supporters, and there is a dividing line between passionate supporters and moronic like behaviour and i too make no excuse for them, yes there was ill feeling bcuz of the recent abandoned meeting, but theres no excusing OTT behavior. It would do one or two of the Cradley fans good for us to have a poor season, then maybe one or two of these glory hunters (hangers on) or whatever they want to call themselves (supporter is to kind)may drift away, and find other things to vent there feelings on. Yes Cradley/Dudley has had tough times, same as everywhere else, but the people are the salt of the earth, Im not claiming its as nice as the Lake District, or The Fens, or The Cotswolds, or The New Forrest, but we cant all be born with a silver spoon in our mouth, but what we do have (once again) is a speedway Team, and as many of you know we do our best to support them, for some of us, its all we have, coming from a rather depressed area of the country, i will support our riders in whatever way i can, but i cannot support bad behavior at Stadia, in whatever guise its shows itself . As Ommer mon said, the passion and fervour at Dudley/Wolves trophy meetings was something to behold, and probably not understood by neutral supporters, but no favour was asked, and none given in those local derbies.

Adam, if Mick is stupid enough to do that, after a last heat defeat, a little bit of aggro on track, and the last abandoned Storm meeting against Cradley, then he is asking for a reaction, and Im betting he certainly got one.. Oh where was Mick when the last meeting got abandoned, did he face the fans then ?. anyways well done Storm, but we will take the away point..

Thanks HT..

From what i can gather Shadders, they seem to think RTD fenced Max not once, but twice, but prior to that, it also said on updates Storm fans were booing Max, some of it may have been a return gesture.. sounded lively whatever went on..lol

I think the remedial work Stoke are hoping for is more sunshine, it wont cost them anything. I have respect for MV but for Stoke Speedway to publically say they are trying to get the Track fit for Speedway, then to allow Stocks on said Track, really is treating Speedway supporters as if they are fools, it really wont wash. Do Stoke want Speedway ? then we have the Plymouth situation thats another big cock up down there, in this day and age people just wont put up with it..

Holes Bay or t,other one up the road, by Siemens.

are Plymouth going to compete in the NL in 2014 or not ? ssupporters would like an answer, as already people have lost money due to posphonments.

Well done to the Storm, any win at mildenhall is hard to come by, yes you missed JJ, but on the other hand RR probably scored more than Brendan would have done, its still early days yet, lots to happen before the business end comes along.

We can all see whats needed, can the promotion? and is there any way the BSPA can assist? i believe they tried to help in the Oxford situation some years ago. If things continue as they are, there really can be only one ending for The Brummies. What the real worrying aspect of this may be, is it may be the ending of Speedway in the city. The landlords of the Stadium the GRA may well decide if monies are owed to just pull the plug on Speedway altogether, and if that happens i can see any return in the forseeable future, whereas if something can be rescued from the current situation, with the help of the BSPA, and some experience behind the scenes. I didnt like the Druryies, but at least they knew what was required in certain situations, the current promotion, dont seem to have any idea on the way forward. I believe they based the current season on reducing the budget, and guaranteed income from SKY, yes they have succeeded in the 1st of those aims, but there will be a price to pay, and we are seeing that ON track. I only hope Birmingham can see out the season in some way (jeez its only april) and they then look to formulate a plan to survive in the PL.

Oh dearie me, not only Robert, LK didnt do to badly either, But this Brum team is woeful losing 60-30 at home, there wont be 250 through the gate, for there next home meeting.

Thats ok, Brum have some who rarely ride there .

em, Leave at Jct 7, trust me its nice and simple, and if you are nice and early a little tip just as you get to the Stadium Grandstand on your left, Turn right at those Traffic Lights, Iv always 100% got on street parking in that street. When you leave back to your Car, you just continue along that road to Traffic Lights, Turn right, then continue to the 1st Island Turn right or 3rd exit (same thing) thats the same road that brought you into Birmingham back up to Jct 7. Whichever you decide have a good day, but dont Ommer Um to badly.

Yes, but as you say, who is the Speedway man, indeed who is the Commercial man, they have both either been got rid off or walked, so lets add up,Co Owner gone, Morris gone, Joe McLauglin (sorry if i spelt it wrong)gone, Mr & Mrs D gone, and the Team itself built on a Budget, and 4 salaries saved. In came Jack, now nothing against Jack but again I would guess (Cost Cutting), In came Charles again (little or no cost), Now we all know "You get what you pay for" and it seems to me, you are saying on one hand who do they have left, and on the other hand give them a chance, This set up doesnt need a chance, it needs something akin to a miracle.

Hmmm, Nice to see Michael Neal back riding again, just a pity he is still unable to do a full NL season, he is far to good now for the Development leagues, much better than Young Scott Campos who is in the Young Stars Team, Im thinking there should be some good battles between him and Josh Bailey, for me i take Bv to edge this one.

If the current Owners survive the season, I will be amazed, Inexperienced Owner in Phillips, now his son , NO new money, No new riders, all adds up to a very bleak season ahead for the Brummies, I really cant see anyone coming in either to financially support the strengthening of the Team, unless there is some Oil rich Oligark out there with money to burn. Alan Phillips strikes me as a bloke who is in over his head, and doesnt know how to get out of it.

I have to say, Monmore probably wouldnt have suited Adam, but congratulations Josh, he beat pretty much everyone, so a deserved champion.

I just ask one question, my final one on the subject. Why doesnt Mr Godfrey run the NL meetings as single meetings, rather than as double headers ?. I believe the answer is because not many will come to watch them at the present time. Yet other people on here expect supporters of other NL Teams to pay hard earned cash, to watch the self same team that the majority of Scunthorpe supporters dont want to watch. I say this with no disrespect to any riders or supporters on here, its for the NL to sort out, by bridging the gap that seems to have emerged this year between certain teams, it can be done, and has to be done for the future of the NL.

Iv read somewhere only today, Sam has been riding for Milton Keynes, so Im only guessing, he could be another Teams assett.

It doesnt really surprise me.

Its pointless having a minimum points limit, if you dont have the riders, simply just reduce the points limit to 35. It would also not be a bad idea to have a draft system for 3 point riders. That would curb to some extent, the Cherry picking being done by certain clubs, same as the EL, Team finishing top of the League has last pick.