Odds On

wise man once said..."do not wave your finger going over the winning line in a speedway heat 13 race, imitating you are number one, as in your next race you will look silly old man!".

What ever the sport, you go into a competition knowing the rules and the parameters. Whether they are seen to be right or wrong by some is irrelevant. The biggest disappointment for me is the general preparation and state of the tracks, they have been terrible and almost gate and go. Well done to BZ but Brady conducted himself well as a human being let alone as a sportsman. The record books will show BZ as equalling winning the most world titles, if he wins one more then he will be the GOAT,

anybody else expecting a dreadful non racing track tonight?....the absolute pinnacle of the season and i worry that it will be a track throwing up pure boredom.

is there anywhere to watch this online or tv?

I would be pretty hacked off if I was a Belle Vue rider, fan, promoter and team manager, when your number one, captain and team mate puts in a performance like that.

if Belle Vue get within ten points they would of exceeded my expectations.

How refreshing that the best rider on show last night was a Englishman, absolutely brilliant. Ipswich are in the box seat, will have to be a different Belle Vue team turn up for them to progress.

Ellis at reserve is key, could quite easily nail a double figure score but then again he's dropped to reserve for a reason!...love the Belle Vue track and what it throws up racing wise, should be a cracker.

at least this GP must be up for a reward, most boring GP this season....absolute borefest....however there is still one to go Vojens, now this could quite easily take the award. On a serious note, does no one in power of the GP's look back in the debrief and think yep we fekked that up?

So the posts on this thread regarding Oxford riders not being paid have little or no credence to them, all of them including Tungate who some on here said he'd walked rode last night and not the slightest bit of evidence to back u[p posts on here.

There were various posts on here stating they hadn't been paid, mainly due to Tungates actions last week...lets see if those posts have any credence or facts to them.

According to this forum, Tungate had walked from the club...and that Oxford riders were owed large sums of monies. Guess time will tell if there is any foundation to them.

i can remember going to British finals at Coventry, there was one in particular that stands out...coming through the turn stiles and then walking that bit to the stadium, it was rammed and nowadays H & S would be in clover, anyway there was one guy who sorted it all out, pointing and shouting at people to do this and t'other....a speedway character called soldier boy, I think was his name.

i am merely playing devils advocate...I have also heard some of the rumours doing the rounds. Still hoping they are wrong.

not really, as far as i can see it's still only hearsay...seems very strange this has only come to light after a riders engine failures on Monday night.

so literally anybody can post unfounded and derogatory posts without any comeback at all, sign me up buttercup, I'm all ears😃

might receive a little more credence other than a one word answer without the slightest bit of evidence!

why ask Jamie?...if you know something post it....or is it just hearsay.

this is my take on the Tungate saga....practice start before his first heat the bike doesn't sound right, shakes his head towards his mechanic, mechanic then touches the bike and taps Tungate on the back as if good to go, the 2 minutes was on anyway, so couldn't of done a lot else, tapes go up and bike gets no further than the second bend and gives up..Obviously words in the pits, misses his second programmed ride, next ride he finishes third but the bike looked like it all but died going over the finishing line, doesn't ride again. Now it could be several things, both bikes died on the night or he doesn't want ride for what ever reason. What ever the reason it didn't look good for Oxford, Speedway or Tungate himself. Hopefully the truth will come out and not just a pointless press release from the club or rider.

anything to back this up or just hearsay?

Rubbish = 5hit

Track is grippy according to Staechman…why aren’t BSN interviewing Tungate or the Oxford team manager, absolutely rubbish show.

Tungate replaced in his second ride, obvious he has mechanical issue, can see him blowing a fuse if he has another ef.

Ipswich look a strong team, biggest worry for opposing teams right now is that they are winning, thats without Doyle and Emil being in dominant form. Can only see Sheffield beating them in the play offs but my money would be on Ipswich, of course there's a huge list of ifs buts and maybe's still.

so is there any foundation behind the rumours?