Parsloes 1928 nearly

Er, no. One assumes (well this thread does...) that at least one Brit is going to be awarded a so-called 'Wild Card' (I actually thought that expression related to the one-off riders allocated as 16th. man to each indiv. GP, but there you go.. ) and Tai, particularly after today, IMHO has to be that man. It was only the tapes exclusion which prevented him from being at least second today, BTW.. Oh and where and when has LOGIC ever been applied to the way the SGP series is made up..?!

Hmm, and I wonder if you might have posted this same comment about Sayfutdinov a year ago..?! If the likes of Nicholls who is a million miles away from being world class can inhabit this series for so long without being lapped I don't think there's too much to concern you.. BTW, your posting is almost certainly the most stupid in the history of the BSF...: well done!!

Ah, right.. Well thinking about it Sayfutdinov won the U-21s twice and this is his first year in the GPs so I suppose it can't be.. Well, that's shocking IMHO.. And regardless clearly for the good of a fast fading concept, both Darcy and Tai MUST be included in 2010..

It's automatic surely isn't it..??!

What a disgraceful posting

Well after today's Under 21 WF there can no longer be any doubt what the answer to this question posed in this thread MUST be. It HAS to be Tai who was so unlucky not to win the world crown and in which case he'd be in, in 2010 anyhow. A SGP next year containing Sayfutdinov, Holder, now Ward and also Woffinden..? Blimey, this would transform it IMHO.. If we go instead for Scotty we may as well all pack up and go home...

I know - and wouldn't it be FANTASTIC if Gollob could by some miracle win that world title he so deserves...

As would, without doubt the unluckiest rider not to win a World title, Master Gollob..!!

Hmm, well if you believe that IF a World title had depended on it, that Greg would have looked around to have a good look-see who it was on his tail and then what happened would have happened, then that's entirely up to you... Personally I'd differ.. One thing for certain, Mr. Hancock would NOT have been all smiles on the rostrum if it had been a World title 'lost' on the final bend as opposed to a more or less meaningless GP round...! Which is why one can't really ever use a GP Round result to second guess what might have happened if that meeting had been a proper World Final...

Hmm, and are you struggling with the concept of 'get a life'...!!?

Hmm, not sure there's any fictional world I can conceive where Greg Hancock wouldn't have taken Bomber out to the fence rather than see him past on the final bend if a World title depended on it...!!!

There are sometimes postings on the BSF which totally baffle me... One can understand people sitting down at their PC and typing out all sorts of views - many differing from ones own. But this posting has lost me completely and utterly.. What on earth do you mean...??!!!

Thought you'd given up on the NL..??!!!

And Michael Lee, even younger in 1980.. 'Fraid World Championship Speedway is now predominantly an old man's game..!!

Unlike a large number of people on this Forum I always accept when I'm wrong (which is often enuff!! ). I didn't know about the direct seeding of the likes of Craven and Mirac in the '60s for example - before my time!!! I was thinking of what were to me the glory days of the WF from say, '72 through to the early '80s and there was no 'seeding' or fast-tracking then. To cite the Polish situation is a bit of a red herring. When England was hosting the WF we had five (or was it four..) places and these were decided at the British Final.. The Poles on occasion (and one was '73) choose to select their finalists...: you can call this 'seeding' if you won't but I wouldn't personally... Just a different method of 'selecting' the host county's allocation of riders.. The fact is that if you were World Champ or in the top three or four in the world you still had to qualify in the year concerned to get back to defend your title.. This made for fantastically exciting meetings across the board and was a real proof of a rider's mettle where it REALLY counts, in the white hot atmosphere of individual meetings. Look at that clip of Olsen racing like a man possessed in his first ride in the '72 Final...: tell me you'd ever see an equivalent effort (albeit ending in failure...) in a current GP.... This is also an enormous red herring... What you're saying is that Greg Hancock qualified through a qualifying process in 1994/'95 and because he's stayed in the top eight since he is there as a qualifier... But each year to finish in the top eight involves finishing ahead of a maximum effectively of just seven other riders... IF he'd had to qualify every year for a WF with several rounds he'd have had to have taken on, at an estimate, something in the region of 59 riders (say) in five ride, 20 heat meetings to get there. There's no doubt (1) that Greg remains in the top 8 - probably four - in the world and deserves his place; but (2) that it is nevertheless one heck of a lot easier for a rider of his class to stay in the GPs than it is for any younger pretenders to get in.. Look at the average age of those contesting GP Finals this year and even with Emil lowering it, it's still far higher than the average would've been in the old WF system...

From the A10 exit off the M25 (jctn 25), with a fair wind you can be at the track in less than 15 minutes! Once you enter Hoddesdon (A1170) there are clear signs for Rye Park. Don't think you'll have a problem finding it!! You MIGHT have a problem getting fish and chips though unless you get there early!!!! PS you won't have to contend with me in the traffic though...: been called up as a 'late substitute' to take my daughter up to Liverpool that day so will AGAIN be missing the NLRC..!

Hmm, am wondering if the legacy of the barely believable decision to have no cut-off date for the bottom positions in the Elite and so Poole threatened with the relegation play-offs, may well have done for this proposed individual meeting...

Hmm, whilst it is the case that sometimes the Poles, for example, selected their reps in a WF the point holds that rider no matter what their status could rely on being 'seeded' straight through to a Final... So it's you who needs to be more accurate with your statements... There is no question that the old WF system was better in every respect than the GPs...: I think more and more people are waking up to this fact by the day...

Ah, but sometimes it was!!! And no, neither clip is from 1981!! :approve:

Which is the time I most need a pint!!!

Yes - there's as much chance of norbold agreeing to get back into my car as there is me getting that pint off Rob!!!

Is it only me wondering what this aside is referring to..?!

That's not much a fantasy as a nightmare!!!

Hmm, apart from the years when it was being rebuilt...!!!

Good point!! That'll have to be the next thread after this one!!!