Najjer

The previous incident involving Brady Kurtz had nothing to do with UKV&I as he wasn't a work permit rider. I have no defence for them this season and always said you can't defend the undefendable. Some say the BSPA said they would be a 5.00, others say they said 7.00. The reality is we will probably never know who actually said what.

How ironic eh Jenga? First your promotion were quick to open their mouths about Somerset's team in December and yet they've assembled a team with not just one eligible Aussie, but two of them! Not so whiter than white are they now? I along with many others have been saying for weeks that Campton isn't eligible.

Which wasn't achieved last year, as per the regulations. The same as Alex Davies whose 7+ average was in 2013.

Douglas will be okay as its already been mentioned he finished in the top 3 of a State final at the end of last year. As I previously mentioned Campton didn't meet the required standard, nor does Manzares, Poole and Jack Holder, technically nor does Alex Davies and Kozza Smith too.

What happens when they apply for riders who don't meet the requirements again, assuming their sponsors license is accepted - surely that is going to look more incompetent than ever before especially after attending the workshop.

That's the whole point, the BSPA aren't the ones setting the rules, that's been the problem in the past. They will do as they are told.

Which wasn't attained last season as per the regulations. That was from 2013. The regulations DO NOT say "has attained a 7.00 average before" - it clearly says last season. Why do people not get it? All this "well he did before so he must do now" is wrong - hence the recent problems because of previous errors

On what basis is Alex Davies getting a work permit?

Like I said, tough luck if he was injured - he should be made to wait until next year when he is fit enough to compete in them and qualify for his work permit that way.

In which case he will have to wait until he is fit enough to ride in his state championship. Within the 4 seasons he has had here he has failed to reach the 7.00 target so there is no way allowances should be made because he was injured and couldn't compete in his state title. You are right in that the average doesn't need to be met if the state title criteria is met as per Sedgmen and Douglas - but Poole has done neither.

A new visa - as Batchelor has said he has to hand over his passport again. Story here: http://www.speedwaygp.com/_mobile/article/3936/batchs-visa-frustration

Troy Batchelor has already said he had a 2 year visa which has effectively been ripped up and he has to reapply. The others will be exactly the same.

Of course, I forgot about his stints with Ipswich - admittedly he broke his arm in one of those seasons right at the start of the season, but that's now 4 seasons where he hasn't reached the required standard.

Why should it apply? Injury didn't prevent him from achieving a 7.00 average, he wasnt ever near it. Another rider who has ridden over here for two seasons and failed to achieve the required rate. That's a different arguement altogether - as its already been stated at no point over the past few years should any work permit rider have come over here on a 5.00. I believe it's also been said the requirements haven't changed for a number of years, hence the 2009 date.

Why don't they? It took me 2 minutes on the BSPA website to find it. You'd also hope the promotion would also know if a rider qualifies too. Rubbish - did his average ever go above 7 last year at any point? The answer is no.

Fair point on Sedgmen - he should be okay then. My mistake - I thought he had been injured all winter and I read he had been on crutches but in fact came 3rd in his state final. Jack Holder on the other hand failed to do so.

Oky doky, as below: Taylor Poole, Ryan Douglas, Justin Sedgmen, Mason Campton, Alex Davies, Kozza Smith and Gino Manzares. I've seen no evidence to suggest that Jack Holder should be given a work permit too.

Hasn't Batchelor been quoted as saying he had a two year visa which has effectively been ripped up and he has to start all over again and apply from scratch. Manzares did not achieve the 7.00 required average. Also, it says "in the previous season" - not over 2 years, when referring to achieving the required average. Currently Manzares does not meet the criteria on the BSPA website. Going back to my earlier point about Alex Davies potentially being hard done by - you can add Kozza Smith to that list too. Neither have finished in the top 4 in a state championship in the previous year or achieved a 7.00+ average in 2014 - even though they have done previously. If they are that good and that serious about riding over here, they will have met the requirements that are being expected of them. There is no two ways about it. That is the expectation here.

Then goods riddance quite frankly - how often do we hear "his average will drop so isn't worth a shot" with regards a Brit or European rider, so the Aussies or Americans should be no different. If they aren't good enough then thanks for coming but good bye. The only one who is getting a rough end of the stick is Alex Davies who doesn't meet the requirements that are set - but achieved over a 7 average in his last season here in 2013 but rules are rules.

Top 4 in a State Championship I don't think is an unrealistic target to set people before they come over here. Then the expectation to maintain their 7.00 average once again isn't unrealistic - that's where the existing Aussie(s) and Anerican are going to fall short, or should I say, they should fall short.

I was led to believe they grant the work permits on the say so of the relevant authority (in this case the BSPA) saying they do meet the required criteria - I can name at least 6 that don't meet that criteria.

As they now have to re apply for them, the BSPA (and also the clubs in the first place for that matter!) shouldn't be endorsing any applicants that don't fit the criteria like they have done previously, that was the whole problem. If they do, we've just done the full circle and no one has learnt any lessons.

Where would be the fun in that ;-) I can think of 6, potentially 7, that don't meet the current requirement we are all aware of - unless these have now changed after the "workshop".

I'm intrigued after the "workshop" how many Australians will now end up getting their work permits turned down - by my workings out after reading the criteria again there could and should be a few missing out! Interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks.

Rye House look a lot better than Berwick - which is a very poor team.