False dawn

Might save this one for the long cold winter...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5aSHN_j_4

Did they also build a single bend set to film some of the scenes for this?

I tried to assembly a list of current track records for British clubs recently. It wasn't that easy (and at least one of the published figures was wrong). And here's you, coming back in just over half an hour with track records from the 40's. I'm well impressed.

Leicester is now an okay circuit. Having been to most of them and raced on a lot of them, Leicester is pretty good. They should have made it wider but as it has now been built the way it is, get on with it. And be grateful.

I don't have a sad life. The Aussies are more than welcome to ride here. But Don't tell us on which night's we can ride. Don't abuse our paramedics Don't abuse our paramedics (duplication deliberate) Don't push the camera away, Don't piss off and ride in Poland when your fans expect you to be here. Did I say "expect"? I meant to say contracted to ride here. Don't lead a walkout when you don't like the track conditions (I spent a lot of money to be there). Shall I go on?

I guess one can put any spin on the facts one wishes. Just depends on your point of view.

God forbid we get rain next week. Then what?

Sounds like a golden opportunity for a rider to lower his average without seeming to. But wait, who's this at the top of the score chart for Workington? Can the conspiracy theorists please explain?

Well we could devise a system that means that the total points awarded is always the same, say 4. But I suspect we'd be into half points for some results. The statisticians would love that! But wait, I have the answer. Double the points awarded so the total is 8. So let's see..... Draw = 3 for the home side 5 for the away (3H 5A) Home win 6 or less = 6H 2A Home win over 6 = 8H 0A Away win 6 or less = 2H 6A Away win over 6 = 0H 8A And let's have 1 point for the aggregate winner The only drawback is that we'd still be working out who should be in the playoffs after the final had been run I've just read what I've written and the topic title.... Whoops So how about 2 for a win, 1 for a draw and 0 for a loss? But I think we tried that!!

Water wings eh?

Not sure that's what you meant Just joshing with you.

I lived through those days and still miss seeing the big dipper running round in the fair ground and over looking the track. The Hyde Road stadium was iconic and it's closure was a sad loss to the sport, to this day. Get used to it? I don't think so.

My goodness, some common sense. Where did that come from? Be careful, you might find yourself out on a limb, here and in the sport in general. [sarcasm smiley here]. Seriously, I have been banging on about bikes and tracks for ages. And what do I know? Well I know what I can see with my own two eyes. And when someone tells me that this unsatisfactory mix of bikes/engines and tracks is costing the average rider a small fortune, I'm beginning to wonder if anyone "up there" has an ounce of sense. We have the makings of a good sport in this country, still.

I have a suggestion, assuming you go to live speedway.... Next time you go, imagine that you'd managed to see your team maybe three times all season and that you might NEVER see them again, EVER, ANYWHERE. Then come back and discuss the nuances of track shape or the number of overtakes. I'm not trying to invoke your sympathy, but have a care. This is almost worse than if we'd shut down altogether. It's not, of course, because there is still a glimmer of hope. Call me deluded, call me naive. But this is supposed to be about keeping the spirit alive. And it was there yesterday. Fans that looked like they still go every week, with there kids (and dogs). Don't rain on our parade guys and gals.

A somewhat rather large assumption backs up this statement. That being, "No one edits their bet ahead of tapes up". I sense this was already a bit tense. Now we have an extra two days to make up our minds this is even more interesting. Game on.

A big thank you to the organising committee and to Leicester Speedway for putting this meeting on. The spirit of Coventry Speedway was very much in evidence both on and off the track. There were a fair number of Bees fans there and a goodly number of Lions supporters. Thanks to all those that turned out. We never threatened to win this one but we did keep the home side honest providing 7 of the 15 race winners. The 10 last places finally did for us.

I think you can see the cord attached to the rider's wrist as he lay on the track after the accident. The cut out didn't.

The real point is that the bike appeared to be under power for several seconds after the rider had fallen off. This cannot be if the cut out is working correctly. An interesting near miss could have been a tragic accident to those girls and the other official that was nearly collected. When I was racing you had to demonstrate that a cut out worked correctly under scrutineering.

Not at all. If a bike is found to be illegal after a meeting, a rider's points would be removed retrospectively. And that's just one example. A clear rule violation took place, no interpretation necessary. Who's fault it was that the violation took place is secondary.

Now come on Steve. Up to that point you had me on side. But people "praying" for a Poole victory? Hmmm.

Sound arguments. So it is more cost effective to 1. Piss off a vast majority of the average punter with "It's a Knockout" rules. 2. Lose meetings because you have no real opportunity to win them.

I don't sense any feeling against BWD for this. The rules were broken. He didn't do anything wrong, it was his team management and the ref for not knowing the rules.

It looks simple enough. If a rider is disqualified / excluded or any other word they dream up and he doesn't take the 15m option then this will count as a ride if he isn't replaced by a reserve and it doesn't count as a ride if he replaced. Simples

We could do both. Or is that too complicated for the average announcer? I note that Swedish TV show the aggregate score after every race in the 2nd leg so you can follow the score on the night and where we are with the bonus point. Not complicated really. However, if it's a choice between one or the other, I'd go for the current system. But we could do both. OR Maybe we should go down the GP route. Team's score points according to their total race points. Win or lose, it doesn't matter. Only your score matters. Wouldn't make a great deal of difference except that Wolves would have finished top of the league AND Rye House would have finished 4th (by 3 points). Can't see Matt going for this idea then! Oh, and Leicester would have finished 6th.

So.... Team captains toss a coin as now. Winner chooses gates in heat 1 or 15. Then teams alternate gates each race. Let the team managers choose which rider goes in which gate. If you're 8 or more behind the losing team can choose which pair of gates they want and continue to do so until they are less than 8 behind when the teams alternate again. At least with this system, the riders have to score the point according to the normal scoring system. And if one gate was a graveyard and the losing team kept choosing the other pair of gates, watch how quickly the ground staff would start to grade the offending gate.