mikec

They came round with bags of scarves to throw to the remaining home fans on the first & second turns - good PR I guess.

Thanks, was a bit concerned, especially as Gollob & Pedersen are in town. Going to the GP in June so going this weekend to get my bearings around the new stadium. Went to the old Torun track a few years ago, I believe the new stadium is in the same area, a couple of miles outside the centre of town?

Hope someone can help me. My girlfriend & I will be in Torun on Sunday afternoon, will I be able to buy tickets for the match at the stadium or is it likely to sell out in advance? Also will the later match be on tv in some of the bars in Torun afterwards - any recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.

Crumpy as my captain for the Prague round please.

That's interesting, I placed my bet with Boylesports just after 11pm on Weds night - price showing 20/1. Looked again yesterday and the price had changed to 8/1 with them - but Hampel's name was still in the same place half way down their list. I just assumed they'd dropped a clanger with 20's for him. I'm quite happy to copy/paste the bet details off my account on to here if asked. The outright betting market is strangely listed under "Drivers Championship" & Mick is right in saying Hampel is 20's for the overall title with them.

Small each way bets for me on this one: Hampel 20/1 Boylesports Holta 50/1 BetFred

My team for 2010: 1. Jason CRUMP £50000 6. Nicki PEDERSEN £45000 (Captain) 7. Rune HOLTA £35000 8. Kenneth BJERRE £35000 13. Jaroslaw HAMPEL £25000 Thanks a lot.

Won in style - nice one Crumpy!!!!!!! Credit to Gollob & Pedersen too, great sports.

Hope he has a strong finish to his GP career tomorrow night. Been a top pro & a credit to the sport, as well as a terrific example to the young Aussies coming along behind him.

Congrats to Poole, Andersen doing the bulk of the scoring to see them through to the final, then Holder coming good in the final to help Andersen through, great teamwork. Hard luck on the Eagles, would have been nice to see them win some silverware despite their recent troubles. Hope your future's sorted out soon & you're still racing next season.

Agreed Tarabanko - the battles between Sajfutdinov, Crump & the Poles on a proper race track should be great - rain stay away!!

Agreed Paulco, Rosco heart on sleeve but not exactly cool under pressure when times get tough - as lets face it times do when managing the current GB pool of talent. Before Robins start sending hate mail this doesn't stop Rosco being manager of the EL champs this year!!

Sadly he's the best of a sub world-class standard British bunch. Bit like supporting the Scotland football team - keep your fingers crossed & hope for the best in future years! (No offence Paulco & others!!)

Congrats Crumpy - despite my tenner win on Gollob at 10/1 - ah well!!

I just wanna watch the best 16 guys in the world race whether Brits, Russian or Japanese. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long for the next "world class" British racer to emerge?

So no British representation in the GP's next season it's looking like - pretty sad.

Same old same old! Slick rubbish, Olsen's a disgrace - again!

There's a couple of decent bars in the main square in Leszno, sat outside one in the corner of square while waiting for 1.30am train back to Poznan after Adams won. Can't remember name of bar though, the Lech had well n truly kicked in by then! You'll have a great time there for sure.

Will be in the pub next to the Sheffield Speedway car park watching Chelsea v Man U tomorrow then into Owlerton to (hopefully) see Mr BV win the PLRC. Great day ahead can't wait! I'm the bloke with the orange t-shirt on, say hello I don't bite!

Sorry, i just have no time for the "joker" rule, keeping it interesting or not - it's just nonsense - especially in a World Cup Final, a battle between the best teams on the planet. Had to explain it to a non-speedway fan, explained it to him that it's like when you fall behind by a decent amount & it was applied to other sports that a Flintoff '6' might count twelve or a Ronaldo goal might count as 2 - reward for being inferior - he just thought it was stupid. Fortunately the rule didn't matter tonight, though the Poles showed great fight tonight anyway. Congrats to the Swedes by the way, thought they showed a lot of fight after an awful start. Lindgren is a World Champion in waiting for me, have changed my opinion completely on Jonas Davidsson too, he's been outstanding this week. It is a well done Denmark thread - they are worthy champs.

Agreed - congrats to the Danes, worthy winners. My god have England/GB got some seroius catching up to do! Anyway Tomasz just said the final (& presumably race-off too) is at Leszno next year - excuse for a few days off work, should be good!

Your point about heat 13's is spot on Iain B. Been talking about this down at BV for a while with the lads - the quality getting watered down while the entry fees rise. Unlikely this'll improve either - Elite League falling way behind it's Swedish & Polish counterparts - it's a real problem.

At least you still got your fix of gloom & depression!!

Yeah it was poor tonight from GB, people can blame Lynch & the riders involved as much as they like but surely rather than dish out blame surely we should be asking why it was so poor. It happened at Leszno last year & again tonight - once can be a fluke, twice & you start thinking there's a problem, that problem being that at the highest level as a team they're third rate. Is Davidsson better than our lads, doubt Rymel will be complaining tonight either (great race win over Andersen by the way). Usually it's either the tracks too big or too slick, there can be no excuses tonight - as a team, just not good enough. Time for British speedway supporters to accept we're in for a couple of years of this at least - anyone putting money on GB making the top two in the world any time soon?? I thought not. Watching Steady tonight was painful, not just for his lack of points. To go from the bloke in the Aces table topping side of 3 years ago to how he was tonight - he looked shot to pieces, slow, beaten by the 2nd bend exit. He's going backwards & it's a real shame. He gets plenty of stick on here & agreed he's been mediocre this season - anyone any clues what's gone wrong?? Finally I just hope a bit of realism prevails with Woffinden. That he doesn't get hailed as the big saviour (if he hasn't already!), only to get slaughtered if he has a less than spectacular night on Thursday - that's what happens in this country usually isn't it? Fingers crossed that he doesn't hit the "wall" that the likes of Nicholls & Harris seem to have hit on the very highest stage. It'd be great to be going watching the grand prix in 3 or 4 years time watching Woffinden out there battling with the likes of Lindgren, Holder, Sajfutdinov - though with the recent record of bringing young GB riders through I wonder if we'll see that - I hope we do.

Yeah fair comment, when I first heard Tony Millard I was a bit worried but he wasn't too bad i guess - or maybe I'm just becoming more tolerant in my old age. As for Monday, I can handle the occasional "come on Scotty" or some home bias showing through - know Mr Pearson's not everyone's cup of tea but he's enthusiastic about speedway & gives all levels of British speedway a plug on Sky when he can. It's the "Wuffy Wuffy Wuffy" shout later in the week that I'm worried about!