Deano

This is devastating news... I wish you every success in whatever journey you take next.

Isn't Setanta free on cable?

Quite, but being big tracks they can get pretty strung out too.

Who's to say Polish speedway is any better? It's still four bikes going around and around?

No worries buddy, I actually thought it was very unselfish of you to pass by, take pics and take the trouble to post them up. (different smilie )

Err there wasn't a problem... I was thanking you for putting them up..

Thank you for sharing those.

The only way that would be achieved and that is as long as the facilities are equally as good as the current venue. It's all well and good having a carbon copy race track, but if people have to stand in the wind when at the moment they don't have to.

Almost laughable!

Very much so, my feeling is the councils look at us and say.. "OK guys, look to be honest with you we hate your sport. We've waited so long to see the back of it and now we've got our chance so, sorry your stadium is going to be bull dozed, flatened, blown up. As a good will gesture though, in light of the many years and money you've spent at this venue we'll call the main road after your favourite rider. Hopefully you'll prefer this to actually going to watch speedway here." Substitute the words speedway, sport and rider to : Cinema Sports field School Large company factory Copice of trees Green belt field Railway station etc etc etc

I struggle to like this idea... Half of me thinks, what a good way of remembering what was there formally. The other half of me thinks, the council has the gall to accept the planning application and in some cases possibly reject the speedway going anywhere else in the borough then call roads after the speedway. For example one of the roads on the Cradley site is called stadium drive. It almost feels like they are laughing at us. Just my opinion of course.

Birmingham Bulldogs at Hall Green Stadium - Stadium still used for dogs Birmingham Brummies Perry Barr (The second coming) - Shopping Centre Birmingham Brummies Bordesley Green - Stadium still used for stock cars.

Sanitized? Can you explain please.

I actually think Gundersen was better than Neilsen, Hans didn't really start to shine until after Erics sad and very premature retirement. Although at the time the rivalry between the two was superb and no doubt good crowd pullers when both were in town.

With all due respect that could be the problem, I respond to the people I've heard from once maybe twice. Four, five or six times just gets right on my left tentacle and the ignore button gets pressed.

This is terrible... who's going to risk going to a GP again?

I disagree Jeff. Before Birmingham came back to the fold I would have said the same. Since we came back, I have to say, I believe the riders value the fans probably far more than the promoters.

Well said Ron, they are also probably one of the most successful too.

You've really lowered the tone of your argument now.

My point was and still is the thread has now been going for eight days and we are only just on our second page. If the topic of a one off world final poll was something the majority wanted, we would be on about ten pages by now. Nothing sinister was mean't. Look at the GP challenge thread, started only a few days ago and on 15 pages of comments already.

But judging by the amount of people reading and commenting on this thread since it inception. Give me the GP's anytime.

Excuse me, it's promoters doing this which has got us in this position.

Yawn.... pathetic thread.

I'm on the AndyM and Lupus side of the argument, apologies if I've missed anyone else of the same thinking. Nothing annoys me more when people spout off we should have used him... him... uncle Tom Cobley... Joe Bloggs and all! You are all spouting off after the wheels have started turning, who ever rode tonight the result would have been the same... get over it.... we are rubbish full stop!!!

I hope Antonio rises above it and puts the aggression into his riding. Antonio can decide with whom and where he rides, if it is open and rife in former eastern bloke countries more than others then he could refuse to ride there. It is their loss at the end of the day.