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That won't happen,like I said. It is different. I get the impression it will be illegal to try and stop riders from riding in an MCF event by banning them from riding for the SCB. Why have they made in roads in other sports? That's the difference. Manchester United could tell Rooney quite legally, you work for us son, no one else. At the end of the day it's the BSPA's loss.

Of course not, football is different, Rooney is employed by Manchester United, he gets a wage. Just like every other football player. So how many speedway riders are employed and paid a weekly wage by a speedway club? Do speedway clubs own the stadiums they race in? A few, but not many, most are leased. It's very different.

Fortunately the promotion has time on their hands with the current economy. Therefore a good opportunity to make sure those t's are well and truly crossed.

Really.... apparently not, only under the ACU. To the rest of your post, I'd want to maximise my investment and if one one of these guys came along and offerred me money to use my track then I'd make a decision on whether to hire it out, take a percentage or go into some other business arrangement. What makes the BSPA think the self employed riders are their property? The BSPA pay insurance to who? The SCB? Why not go to MCF then if they are cheaper? Obviously Steve you think speedway just can't get any better. What would happen if MCF started to lure new promotions and some current ones away from the ACU to start their own league? With the promise of lower insurance, lower running costs and a big league sponsor? Think about it, I bet your team would be right on the band wagon.

1) Viabilty - Depends on how the speedway fans take to it. At the moment it looks like a GP format individual event based entirely in the UK. 2) Promotion - It's being backed by a reletively new type of organisation, that to be honest seems to be able to pull in the crowds. What they choose to do differently with the current speedway format or keep it as it is I don't know. Perhaps they will use similar techniques to get the crowds in, that they have done with motocross. 3) Locations - They currently appear to want to use existing cicuits, but there attemps with motorcross seems to extend to bigger arena's. If they could do this for speedway! 4) Sponsorship - Well, Red Bull is with them. Perhaps speedway is next. 5) Future - What do we have to loose. Speedway is dying and getting boring on terraces. There's no atmosphere. Something like this may pull in more punters once they realise there is a track by them that rides league speedway. Techniques the new organisation use could be used by the BSPA. 6) Disruptions to domestic league - Can't see why it would, it may mean some riders getting more rides and knocking one of the continent leagues on the head. Plying there trade more here, rather than abroad. All that depends how the series takes off and how they get paid. Just a thought. I'm thinking the MCF, the way it originally came about, would have been as welcome as a fart in a space suit on the motocross scene. They new though the product they had, would eventually come out better and competitors would step across. What they are seeing from the SCB and the BSPA is nothing they haven't seen before. SCB and BSPA have had a monopoly on the sport for many years and fans are running away from the sport in droves. This is just another form of competition that they have never had, competition creates variety and I'm convinced my favourite sport will be better for it.

Probably slightly guilty of that myself... sorry...

. I agree, there is though more to the meaning of the word "encouragement". The 30 mile rule, doesn't encourage and neither does the self interest that lies within the BSPA. Which is why this fresh set of ideas looking in should be given thought.

Simple question... Then why not put the denial on the 'official website' too? Please point me to the denial on the official facebook page, I've looked and can't find it, although that could be down to me?

A missed opportunity I'd call it, if it were to be dropped now. Just think in three years, we could have seen a UK speedway series sponsored by Red Bull. But hey ho this is speedway, we deserve what we get really.

They wouldn't they have a business to run, bills to pay and a governing body that wishes to be involved. Lets hope some common sense is used. The last thing we want is a Rugby Union and Rugby League type split in speedway.

So the track could then be forced to run under the other organisation? If Six tracks were expelled for doing this event, they'd run their own mini league not under the SCB/ACU. If fans see it as being better speedway... more would/could jump? Best to negotiate with these people, us as fans can only win surely? We've been asking for a while for a fresh set of eyes and ears to step in and run something.

Pretty well explained there JL. Can't disagree with it neither.

lol.... Stansolo'd has the same effect on me!

Interesting.. could this be the kick up the bum the governing body needs?

But if they were married you'd expect them both to kick up a fuss if you wanted to open a chippy next door. The BSPA and SCB are very much in the same bed.

In name only, they have the same HQ.

They are the same thing.... why would they pay themselves?

Because it's not money going into a BSPA franchise. It'll be substitutional money out of the BSPA and into another. It tends to be the same for supporters collecting subs for raffles etc, it has to be additional money and not money that would otherwise be used to gain enterance into another meeting. Because we can't even if we wanted to.

Isn't that quite good for speedway in general? Will we run won't we just weeks before tapes go up is the norm?

Hate the idea. Builders and planners come in, kill the sport in the area, then have the audacity to call the roads after the clubs riders... Talk about rubbing salt into wounds. Go to Cradley Heath, there are a few new roads there named on a speedway theme.

So the questions are: Is speedway monopolised by the BSPA/SCB for greed/control or through general safety for it's riders etc? Seems like the basis for a good idea has been squashed. Neither would they get a bite of the cherry. I guess it wasn't a shared event thing.

Ahhh I see cost a tuppenny bit to make, market, sell and post, but £79.98 must go to the FIM for use of the words "FIM Approved" on the label.

What's so special about the fittings to be £80? Can only be bolts and brackets etc???

sarcasm, the lowest form of wit.

or rear sprocket? Don't know what's the chain thingy on the rear wheel?