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He has a tamper proof tin labelled exact change only, mind you you'll never find him as he's always in the bar with Dakota North discussing Holders team preferences.

As we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns the ones we don't know we don't know.

Can yer tell what it is yet?

Bit like Kildermand a few years back.

Very pleased with that team. Considering we couldn't keep the same side due to points limits and the dodgy draft we have essentially replaced two PL riders who averaged 13.24 with two that averaged 12.99. Only a slight change to a, cheating aside, play off winning team.

Dag Lovas.

Hey, paperboy why the Yoda impersonation? Let me try. Have pint in bar with North you must. Then talk balls you can. There is no try, only cheat. Lol.

It’s funny when the Poole fans say “it’s not our fault, all the promoters make the decisions” or “Matt Ford is just more astute” Many years ago Belle Vue signed Jason Lyons after a particularly bad year with Poole. He came to us on a nice low EL average and to complete the team we had local lad Ricky Ashworth lined up. We were then told we couldn’t fit Ricky in as the average Jason needed to use was his PL converted average and not his most recent EL figure. Ricky then went to Poole “enjoying” a 500mile plus round trip for home meetings. At the time a video clip came on the web of a pre-season fans meeting at Poole with Matt Ford and Terry Russell on the panel. The Ricky/Jason situation was mentioned and with laughter all round Russell said perhaps he should have known the rules better. The he in question was Ian Thomas, a man who throughout his involvement with the sport knew the rule book backwards. The ruling had been made it was just a little slow in getting around to everybody. T his is by no means the only occasion for such “shenanigans”, anybody remember when Matt Ford was astute in his signing of Peter Kildermand? All promoters are created equal, it’s just some are more equal than others.

He owes a debt to British Speedway that he can never pay back.

There will be 30 odd meetings at Belle Vue this year from NL to SWC. In addition BV Arena will look to utilise the stadium for other corporate events some with no connection to speedway. The loan of around 6 million is to be paid back over the next 60 years.

True, and the shape of things to come with our new set up. I think it will take more than just goggle cheating to stop us now. I'm really interested to see the lengths that cheating scumbag will go to now we're back.

Don't sign Zagar sign Miedzinski, he has a higher average.

Swindon did it.

The Poole club motto. Guessing it's emblazoned on the walls of their changing room.

We have a tie up with both the greyhounds and the cinema with regards to extra parking. If you look on goggle earth the cinema carpark across the road is huge, it just needs security patrols on big nights.

Hancock complained about us practising at Saddlebow Road.

That's a bit under HANDed.

Yes he did. 2004 at Eastbourne. Middlo was accused of instructing his riders (Pedersen & Sullivan I think) to throw a race to allow for a tactical on the following heat. People were going mad at him as it was in the face of the "bona fide attempt to race". Fraud said it wasn't Middlo but him that made the call to cheat.

Pretended to be disabled when they weren't. Makes North/Ford seem almost angelic.

Matt Ford is s self confessed cheat from way back in 2004. People accused Middlo but Ford said it was he who instructed the cheating. I think maybe Newman had a hand in thinking he could ride against regulation (or rulebook). Is that where we are now, cheat and if you get away with it, we'll all well and good. Disgraceful.

I've already paid to go and watch them, well ten meetings at least.

Yea.

That is a description of how riders are normally signed, if this is the case then why have the pantomime of a draft pick if the allocating of riders is already sorted?

Maybe going into partnership with his brother.

One thing I didn't get when Cook released the statement regarding Ellis was why/how would he speak to other club(s) when he was part of the draft pick and could have gone to any team, even Lakeside if the picks worked that way. It's like he and the other people involved knew where he was going before the picks had taken place, which is odviously bent.