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The number of clashes due to Belle Vue & Peterbough being Friday night tracks is 3 There are 2 other clashes due to one or both clubs riding away. Belle Vue ride 5 Friday's, 5 Wednesday's with the rest on Mondays and Saturdays. Less than 35% of the time we are a Friday night club.

I'm guessing this is the beginning of the end for Chapman. It's been a truly terrible rein as chairman. Whereas before there was a kind of benign incompetence Chapman has been able to squeeze in a full years worth of poor decisions into just two months. Missing out on loan payments for the Dane was bad enough but the potential of The Aces benefiting was too much to take and led to this shocking outcome. I feel for young Craig I really do. Keith Chapman you are an utter disgrace.

It a great shame when the desire to stick it to Belle Vue by the establishment sees riders caught up in the cross fire.

If you use the A34 is 35 miles and I reckon if you measure "as the crow flies" it's just below 30. I think it's just clubs fighting over the diehards who follow speedway these days.

Bad day at the office for The Aces together with some bad luck. They need to knock these poor starts to meetings as we are then on the back foot early doors and that can set a tone for the meeting. The racing was ok for Lakeside and I think people's perception were skewed due to the early delays. We keep getting fans and riders saying the track isn't normal when Sky are in town and generally Sky matches are very poor in terms of entertaining racing. I've never seen a good Sky match from Wolves even with their award laden track. Something needs to be done about Sky's involvement with track prep as essentially this is our weekly two hour advert and it needs to look good.

Must admit I'm one of the strange ones who would rather watch a lad bust a gut to score 4 than watch a "star" score 7. Over the last decade we've had loads of journey men going though the motions and it does my head in. I take your point about winning but another quirk with me is I'm happy to see us lose if the match has been great but feel short changed if the meeting is dull irrespective of the final result. I can't defend those opinions, it just is. I'm also a big MPT fan.

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Back up now. Must have been down.

Well we got to May at least.

Whoever consistently gates well will win the meeting.

Three league matches as I don't think today's would have made it. We lost seven league matches to the elements last year and we currently stand at four this year. I'm hopeful we can beat last years sorry total and though they wouldn't have saved today's meeting the track covers should save some over the rest of the season. All in all I'm happy to be at NSS rather than a dog bowl.

If the speedway was still at Kirky Lane if would be off.

Stock cars next door at four. Council don't want traffic chaos so asked what we start early.

Belle Vue have an online shop. You can also buy and print off tickets on. Belle Vue have a massive online presence. They publish just on average more than one story per day on their main website but put out more than that on Twitter & Facebook. I liked the shop display Poole have sorted locally. Belle Vue for years had a similar display in a shop window near Piccadilly in the centre of Manchester. It's a great bit of PR.

Why didn't Coventry pick Ellis in the draft?

Respond to your messages then.

Belle Vue v Hull in the early 70's. We didn't like the track and walked out. It went ahead with a string of 5-0. If that happened now it would probably break the internet. Lol.

Glad things have changed. The fines given to Harris and Kylmakorpi when they didn't want to ride last year was nuts.

Have they had a refund yet?

That's was shocking and more so because it was Belle Vue. I really took them to task over that episode from many years ago. I know they felt, if you can't beat 'em join 'em but we're Belle Vue for gods sake. I think it's biased though to just presume that lies are being told and I still feel the facts should be sort out before making a judgement. I'm not going to sit here pointing fingers at other promoters over the farewell debacle as I (want to) believe they were acting in good faith at the time but things later transpired that in hindsight made them look like crooks. I think it's detrimental to the sport as a whole to have supporters continually knocking clubs by way of lies and gossip. Potential new fans and sponsors could look in on here and think again which I feel is a disservice to UK speedway.

I looked at that but I think it might be as the crow flys and I bet it's just within 30 miles. Still silly though.

What a shocking start to the season for call offs. Kings Lynn and Belle Vue lead the way with three a piece, Wolves and Swindon have two each and of the rest all bar Poole have one each. It will be interesting to see how The Aces track covers go as it could see them adopted throughout the EL if they prove a success. I'd heard similar rumours a few days ago. Surprised they opened the gates tbh but these things happen I suppose. Though I wasn't there myself I'm quite interested in the refunds policy and how long it will take. I'd imagine plenty of others on here feel the same.

Amen to that. Truth will out I say. Imagine if those at Belle Vue had tried to cover things up? Though it gave people more ammunition for nasty comments I still prefer their openness on the matter, in print, on screen, via radio or in person. Something many could learn from. When I learned that the contractors had screwed up the base and sub base construction I, like you was shocked. Amazingly inept but at least we can take some comfort in knowing a large penalty clause payment will be making its way into British speedway via Belle Vue.

Must admit I don't mind being "brow beaten" with facts as you put it if it ends in me having a greater understanding of something, but I am a bit of a facts man. It wears me down when people brow beat me with their opinions, opinions masquerading as a story of true events. State the facts to find the truth. Opinions and hearsay are divisive and damaging.