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So Poole didn't like the form of Andersen so said he had a long term injury to get Lindback in on a weirdly low re assessed average. Then they were worried about Pedersens form so rested him in favour of a stronger replacement. After signing Lindback his form took a knock and this coupled with being at a track he won't score well at decided to rest him in favour of R/R. Meanwhile just four days after Lindbacks debut, long term injury victim takes to the track, beating opponents in the process. If this was the plot of a work of fiction it would be laughed off for being too outlandish. Funny and sad at the same time.

In a way I'm an example of a fan deciding not to attend anymore. I use to go to all Aces away fixtures, open meetings, fixtures from other leagues and if I was in a particular part of the country with a track an hour or so away I'd pay it a visit. I watch 20-30 less meetings now as a result of the cheating etc that goes on. I'd never think of penalising Belle Vue so I have a season ticket and go to every match apart from the play offs, I've never seen one as it doesn't fit right so I give them a wide berth. I was interested in the post from a Poole fan saying crowds in 2003 were around 4000 put now they are half that. Even Poole fans can't stomach what Fraud gets up to and it was around then that his modus operandi kicked in (2004 to be exact, remember "self confessed cheat" Matt Ford). True fans can see the damage he does to the club and the sport as a whole, save for a few devote followers. I think I'm correct in stating the Ford is the least successful Poole promoter in terms of bums on seats. Great shame.

Do Poole have year bars for hanging on their cheating scumbag badge?

Must be, Hans is out with an injured hand.

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I think all the fans who continually go on about the spaced out fixture list and demand weekly speedway will turn up, won't they!

Looks like Poole have new sponsors lined up. http://www.heritage-envelopes.co.uk/

The joker doesn't overly bother me and having any system to keep meetings close is fine by me. I think a rider finishing second should score less than the winner but the thing for me is the fact the new tr just hoodwinks us poor fans once again. I use to love the hush that came over the crowd as a tactical was announced. Coming out in yellow and black is....... Ivan Mauger/Ole Olsen/Eric Gunndersen/Hans Nielsen. It gave us an extra chance to see these guys in racing mode. As was shown both systems have an equal impact on results but one gave the option of seeing extra track time to star riders. The new system short changes us in comparison so that's my only gripe.

If there was nothing to hide then the decision making process would be there for all to see. The fact it's all cloak and dagger just re enforces how bent it all is, with Poole at the centre as always.

Is it true that only two or three members are needed to rubber stamp a decision, say Chapman, Godfrey & Pratt? It's baffling isn't it. It's not just speedway though, politics, business and other sports have all had some strange decisions made throughout history and nobody can work out why. On an unrelated note is it true Poole get close to 4000 at £25 per head for a play off final? That's £100k. Nice.

I'm glad you caught on, I've been calling out Ford for cheating for over a decade, remember "self confessed cheat Matt Ford"? Funniest thing, when I first called them cheating scumbags, the Poole fans took offence to me calling them scumbags. LOL.

I had a go at the promotion about not taking Tai when he approached us. They said it would have required two changes to the team. They contacted Tai's UK team to inform them of that a conversation had taken place. I member of the management committee informed them it was highly likely Tai's average would be reassessed making a straight swap with Zagar impossible. The Aces were happy to stick with Zagar and were not looking to change but didn't want accusations of back room deals and therefore informed Wolves of the approach.

Problem is with tickets.com the outsourced ticket provider and the issue is only with block D, the posh seats. The Aces management are pushing for a resolution to the problem. I think we should do it ourselves next year and then we can do away with the booking charges tickets.com want.

If Andersen had an 7.55 average Lindback would have been re assessed to 7.50. Equally if Belle Vue wanted to sign Lindback it would have been on his old average of 7.94. It's the inconsistencies that get fans backs up coupled with the fact that Poole always get lucky. Go figure.

Do we really need a rule outlawing the use of brown envelops? Enough has been added or amended in the rule book following Frauds moves in the past, can't he just be sporting and play fair. Cheating scumbag.

Isn't that Dakota Norths dads hand?? Looks familiar.

Seems to make sense. Can you talk us through why Hancock came back in 2013 and used his 8.77 average that was achieved like Lindbacks in 2007?

Just put these clowns on ignore. You see Shovlars posts when quoted but just scroll by. He has nothing of merit to say and no integrity what so ever, chopping and changing his opinions to suit. His comments about Clare Balding were a disgrace but not unexpected given his view of women. He will slip up again no doubt and be off to "Rome" again. It's a shame as after his last "trip" he seemed somehow reformed and his posts were fine but he returned to type and as I say this will see him slip up again. Better dust off that Italian phase book. 😀

Even Hitler didn't damage British speedway to the same extent that Ford has done. If you want to rename the league call it the brown envelope league.

Play offs teams can ride when they want and do not have to fit in with Sky. Anyone who thinks the plays offs are there to suit Sky are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Lock up your daughters! Anyone know where I can buy Hans Andersen wristbands. #prayforhansie Cheating scumbags, back with a bang.

Yes correct. That was the year the bonus point was introduced meaning many late fixtures were worth 3 points. Re Cradley winning by 7, four meetings worth 2 points each is 8. That's why I said up to four meetings. Here are the gaps between the top two teams. 80 3 (2) 81 7 (4) 82 6 (3) 83 7 (4) 84 3 (2) 85 10* (4) 86 6 (2) 87 16 (6) 88 16 (6) 89 6 (2) Hope the facts don't launch Orion into another abusive rant. He don't like facts..

Apart from Coventry in 87 & 88 all the other titles during the 80's were won in the winning teams last 2-4 matches during October. As I thought no factual back up. What a waste of space you are. No backbone.

I just appear clever when chatting with you. You made the statement, now back it up or retract it.

How many teams under either system won the title by July or even with 2 or 3 meetings left for that matter? Look it up then forget to respond as the facts would prove you wrong - again. I'd respond to the first paragraph but I don't understand it.