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Tell you what, just give me half of 0.001% of those and I'll endeavour to answer them.

David Gordon was probably informed on the day in the same manner as that recorded by Rachel. Namely. If we had any issues during the meeting, he (Colin) had sufficient equipment and staff that he could very quickly bring the rollers onto the track between each heat if necessary. I walked around the track with the riders to gauge their feelings. Although there were a few concerns, the was no direct negativity and I chatted to a couple of them about grading between every heat if necessary and they all seemed relatively settled. Later that afternoon it read..... At this point I did not think that there was a real threat that the riders would not ride the track. Later on that evening when environmental conditions changed the minor issues became major.

It doesn't matter what Lemon discussed with any rider as we currently have nothing official in place with regards owners or who is responsible for what. It got a little more concrete recently and that probably prompted Richie's post. The fact is over the last few months all sorts have been posturing about running Belle Vue. Someone from a failed bid group even contacted Joe Screen about being manager so this demonstrates the level of uncertainty until recently.

Definitely be buying a copy as I've been waiting for the councils view. An in depth rebuke, point by point of the allegations from Belle Vue will go a long way to ending this sorry tale. There's always two sides and the Aces have put thee case quite forcibly so to see each issue dealt with by the council could be quite scathing of the Aces management.

MCC had the own Construction Engineer and Project manager overseeing works as they were the ones paying ISG. Belle Vue had little to no rights when it came to inspecting and commenting on the build. I could be wrong but I don't believe the CEO, directors, chairman etc stand on a daily basis watching the construction of their latest venue as it comes out of the ground. They delegate or employ contractors or sub contractors to carry out the work on their behalf. At least that was my understanding until now. Similarly, when the government get round to building all these new rental properties we hear about I now know that prospective tenants can have free access to the build and pass judgment as they see fit. Every day is a learning day they say.

"He knew it was going to happen" "Decided to muddle through" "Botched business plan led to poor decision making"

FFS! Dave Gordon was always going to retire at seasons end and be replaced by Gordon Pairman. Buster scuppered this. Have you not been following all this on here and social media? Ignorance is no longer an excuse for posting BS when all the information is out there. It's fine if you don't like Belle Vue or its promotion but don't try and validate your opinion with outdated rubbish, lies and insults.

A post about KK and Cook in the top flight and Cook is the journeyman. 😂

Taken from press release 06/04/17. With the forecast in their favour, and a successful practice under their belt, the Rentruck Aces are particularly eager to entertain their home crowd having last done so in the 2015 EL Grand Final. Team boss Mark Lemon, who meticulously watched over Wednesdays closed-doors session, says the increasing anticipation for this meeting is making his squad all the more feisty in the build up. He said: Any doubts over the condition of the track have been put to bed in the wake of todays closed practice. The boys had a good session and are exceptionally keen to get things moving. End. Following this the track was extensively worked on and it was another month before a meeting successfully ran. Practise wasn't the issue nor was the "expert" opinion pre GOM as the problem was utterly unique and incredibly difficult to identify and resolve.

Or to put it another way. Your honour I think we can disregard the defences case as they are "a bit thick". Theirs alot two discus bout this arttickle grandma no bin 1 of those.

I thought he was replacing Zagar but from what you say Zagar is staying put. Interesting.

"New East Manchester had forwarded the Belle Vue business plan to top business planners KPMG who had given it their approval" Only the covenant (another MCC cock up) was to be paid over a shorter time frame. Still didn't help and would have formed part of the November discussion that was sadly prevented from taking place by Buster. Whilst I appreciate people's point of view that DG & CM should have called off the SWC and halted the Aces season to limit further debt, imo it was better, with agreement to continue until season's end before sorting everything out with MCC,as was the plan. Just my opinion as I say.

The agreement to sort the south side was done before the GOM & SWC problems. Without those, debt wouldn't have been an issue, south stand or not. Things were agreed to just to get the show on the road and keep Sky on board but with the promise of negotiations taking place in November between DG and MCC to sort out responsibility for the various costs. That was scuppered by Buster and we now find ourselves still awaiting confirmed owners and team. One thing you can blame Belle Vue for is endeavouring to do the best for the sport and the club when it would have been so much easier to just stop running or drop down a league when things get hot in the top tier. Not our style though and thankfully we now have the NSS. Shame we don't have the SWC this year. Go figure.

It's always the case that when The Aces top the league a big drop in the team building average follows the next season.

Are you just publishing the article bit by bit on here. Nice one.

You're coming over as one of the cranks who wear a sandwich board declaring the end is nigh. One day they will be correct but that in no way validates their behaviour up to that point. You missunderstand. Read or re read my post dated 02/01/17 re the practice session.

It's COMPLETELY lost on you that even after extensive testing and the track being given the thumbs up by all involved the very next meeting was cancelled due to the unpredictable nature of the problem. TBH this topic is far too complicated for some, you included to comprehend. We understand your simplistic take on it all but please, please stop repeating it. I've asked the mods to contact you with regards to who I am not as this is another topic where your ignorant unsupported beliefs lead to the tedious repetitive nature of your posts.

Even people with a passing interest in this forum know by now I’m not Fred, indeed the last contributor to continually harp on about it was reported (by me) and removed. I love it when Orion goes to his mind palace to think up his repeated nonsense on all things…… well on all things. I imagine he enters through the window having lost his keys, steps in a sink full of soapy pots, slips on the floor before stepping on a garden rake and hitting himself in the face with it. He then steps back into the cat litter tray whilst placing his hand on a red hot ring on the oven top, falls back against the ironing board which prompts the hot iron to wobble furiously before planting itself on the baffled looking poor chaps face. Then the eureka moment for us all to enjoy via the BSF. Never change mate, wrong you may be but you do it with style.

Belle Vue sell them and have done for years, in fact we often sell out. If it helps speedway as a whole then count us in. For a sport on it backside like ours is currently then we think there is no room for petty jealousies and grudges.

Correct. A bigger crowd would have hopefully meant more spent in the shop and at food outlets that would go straight to Belle Vue to help keep things afloat. Some didn't want that.

Looks like the BSF is in Chapmans pocket as well. Great shame.

I thought his nickname was Buster?

You'd think DG would have washed his hands with this sport after the way Buster behaved and the massive losses he's had in getting the jewel in speedways somewhat tarnished crown up and running. He brought these guys into the sport to be part of his team and he see them finally at the helm following his retirement. Looks like his executive seat will kept warm for him, where he can survey his achievement every week without all the nonsense chipping away at him. Cheers sir, and if you can find it in your heart to forgive and forget we'd all like to see you replicate this and get new stadiums up and running finally in all these towns and cities sadly currently lost to the sport.

Nice little earner for Buster. Whoever meets the bees in April will be on to a winner as Coventry will obviously have no home track advantage. Let's have a look. Kings Lynn Leicester Poole It does give you a nice warm feeling that at least something's in the sport never change.

It would be a good idea to rejig the fixtures so the four league encounters are early in the season as this would help with the crowd levels. They could even alter the KO Cup to draw them together (if they are not already). I'm no talking the same fixture every week but not far off.