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After he pulled out of the British Final last year I said it has robbed the British public of the chance to see him in action. Even though the money wasn't great I said it's not about financial reward or anything like that. He wouldn't change his mind so I had no choice but to accept the decision. Shame all that wasted merchandise for the Tai Woffinden Awesome Testimonial.

Looking better now that my big fat gypsy promoter is not involved. Not what he wanted but it's better for us Aces than his puppet promoters would have been. So like Hitler he failed to stop The Aces. We also dodged a bullet at No1 today, imo. Might even get my season ticket for Christmas. Buster, as a Geordie might describe him "Norfolk and good"

She's a rather plump lady and she's currently clearing her throat for the final curtain. 😩

Sounds like you're up to speed on events there mate.

I've no problem with riders giving it back as long as it's in the same pantomime style it was delivered by the crowd. Similarly I'd be happy to see more Cook style behaviour, it never amounts to anything and is soon forgotten between the competitors. If it ever goes too far there are plenty of folk about to reign it in. It all adds to the occasion and I wouldn't even mind if it was staged now and then just to spice things up. When the riders give it back they have to be mindful of kids and not do anything too risky but there is plenty they can do to get the crowd going. Speedway crowds aren't the sort to start rioting either so I see no harm in it. I actually miss the villains of yesteryear and the extra entertainment they brought. I think one of the big problems with the sport is it's lost sight of the fact it's an entertainment and more often than not it's about amassing points and getting it over with.

After doing what they did the BSPA in crowd have to ensure Belle Vue's continuation. To oust a promotion without a cast iron guarantee of something else taking it's place is foolish to say the least. So in that respect I'm very apprehensive.

We lost a lot of juniors whilst spending money on getting the NSS out of the ground. Doesn't seem worth it now. Anyway back to team building. Steve Worrall Charles Wright Richie Worrall Kyle Howarth Jason Garrity Matt Williamson Joe Lawlor

That's over by nearly 1.5 points. Remove Richie and add in MPT or Auty.

Just had a bit of sick in my mouth.

How much are the riders worth and if you add it to all the stuff at the nss that belongs to the old promotion plus the bond what would it come to?

Cook B.Kurtz Nicholls S. Worrall Hougaard Bewley/Williamson Smith/Bickley Or Fricke MPT Cook S.Worrall Hougaard Bewley/Williamson Smith/Bickley Fantasy purposes only of course.

Who'd of guessed. Go Buster.

The Bradford district of Manchester is a mile or so from the NSS, indeed Odsal stadium is only 20 odd miles away. Looks like now even the BSPAces are out in favour of The Bradford Dukes. Makes sense I suppose.

It also brought the capacity down from 6000 to 5000. Bloody builders.

The BSPA gaining control of the NSS was a major coup.

I hope your builders are better than those that are building the NSS as its still not finished. We had to put temporary stands and porta loos in to help the situation. It caused havoc at the SWC and people had to pee up against fences. It's like getting a council house then being told the bathroom is in a marquee in the back garden. A mate of mine refused to pay his rent as his kitchen wasn't finished or usable. He was told legally that paying the rent would signify his acceptance of the condition of the property which could have seen remedial work postponed. Things to bear in mind with your build.

Actually if they have two double headers like the other year and only race 15 nights then it's over £23000 in rent per night. With the fact that's it's probably the wettest city in the world that is very likely. This is very concerning.

No idea. 60 years was ok but 24 is not. Manchester Evening News 09/04/2014 "The council will borrow most of the extra cash itself, to be repaid by tenants Belle Vue Aces over the next 24 years. They will pay the maximum possible rent over that period in order to minimise the councils risks, says the report". It's obviously now 23 years with nothing paid off the 8 mill. If they run only 17 meetings that's £20460 per meeting. I'm guessing admission will come down to £15 then take off the VAT to give £12. You need over 1700 on the terraces just to cover that.

Indeed. £8million to pay back over 23 (clock's ticking) years with 20 matches per year as I'm guessing they'll make the play offs and progress through the cup. If it's only over 17 matches it's even worse and I've not allowed for Prudential Borrowings interest charges.

Holder Wilkinson Robson Risager Osterguaard Branford Boxhall If Skornicki comes back to the UK they'll probably slot him in somewhere.

It'll be a right hotch porch of unwanted journeymen lining up for the BSPAces next year. Very appetising. Save us over £1600 next year so every cloud and that. They're going to need every penny they can get with what works out at nearly £17'000 rent per meeting. I thought the dog track was dear at £5000. Ouch!

I think Cook (6), Zagar (4) and Nicholls (3) will be in high demand as they are not bothered about being paid as they kept signing for Belle Vue. Well according to the in the know types on here.

Thats Coventry, Cradley, Exeter, Halifax etc sorted then. Well done that man. A bet there's still people on here thinking you're talking out of your backside again but who would waste bandwidth posting what you wrote? A troll?

If it's not Belle Vie people that take over then that's me done. If I thought the new lot had anything to do with what's gone on this past week or two then I wouldn't have anything to do with them.

I didn't anticipate that they would stick with PL averages and recalculate some heat leaders (1.4) up as this sees them average over 12?? It won't benifit the Aces as the powers that be won't sanction new promoters until other deals are done. We'll end up like 2007 with Steady as our number one. Same s*^% different day.