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Half of the last 10 play off have seen teams with injuries to their top men that required guests. Play off teams can only choose guests from non play off teams.
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Tuesday I would say. Precedent has been set when Craig was stopped from competing for The Aces in the home leg of that years KO Cup final. 16/10/17 SCB STATEMENT: CRAIG COOK: The Speedway Control Bureau have imposed Craig Cook a Period of Inactivity of 7 days due to withdrawing through illness from the SGB Riders Championship at Glasgow on Saturday 14th October.
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Kings Lynn Speedway and the BSPL are separate entities in the same way that Kings Lynn Speedway and Norfolk Arena Ltd are.
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I think he’ll be serving a Period of Inactivity of 7 days so I don’t know why this wasn't mentioned earlier.
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I recently had my roof done by a company where the owner had taken a back seat and he employed another chap to do the work. I was left with a big hole in my roof with rain peeing in night after night. I will continue to use this company and fully support them as it wouldn’t be fair to do otherwise. The dodgy roofer he employed has since left. The roof was to be fixed on Thursday but he’s rang to say that day is off. I’m not bothered as it’s not his fault and he wants as much money as he can get for his retirement which is fair enough. The house is a really mess with all the rain but the don’t blame anyone, I’m just happy to have a roofer.
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I’m fine with you believing that. Enjoy your speedway.
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010.5 FACILITIES No facility is permitted to replace a rider, who although included in a re- declaration has not made an appearance for that team since being re- declared. This applies to BOTH Becker & Nicholls. This rule is so rarely applied that it’s pointless being there. It’s probably only included to trip a particular team up. So forgetting that that rule wasn’t applied, there is another that needs looking at…… 010.3 TEAM DECLARATIONS In the Premiership and Championship Leagues a rider taken out of a team through injury cannot be re-declared in that team, within 28 days. Wolverhampton re declared their team 06/04/23 to include Scott Nicholls (5.28) for 28 days. (https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/p23_issue_3.pdf http://www.wolverhampton-speedway.com/_mobile/news.php?extend.3652) He unfortunately got injured so Wolves asked if they could re declare back to their previous lineup. The cartel said yes (obviously) on 10/04/23 and this meant the could call on a guest with a higher average to replace Luke Becker (https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/p23_issue_3.pdf) But….. Belle Vue re declared their team 27/08/21 to include Nikolaj Busk (4.63) for 28 days. ( https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/p21_issue_17.pdf https://britishspeedway.co.uk/premiership/aces-make-injury-replacement/) He unfortunately got injured so Aces asked if they could revert back to their previous lineup. The cartel said no (obviously) and The Aces had to see out the 28 day period finding guests to cover his low average rather than Richie Worralls higher (5.32) figure. Bizarrely The Aces were made to find a guest (Simon Lambert) whilst a fit Richie sat on the sidelines as it fell with the 28 day period. (https://speedwayupdates.proboards.com/thread/20448/sheffield-premiership-06-09-2021) The most important thing to remember here is that no one cares and it’s been that lack of care that has seen our wonderful sport die in this country.
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British Final 2023
ouch replied to Hackett's topic in Speedway Testimonials & Individual and Shared Events
Same here though I’m bit further at 6 hours 13 minutes. Once I heard Worrel, Schlein and Cook were missing, I though count me out. If Ben Barker withdraws, I’m not even taping it. -
Illegally to boot, so win-win for the cartel.
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Broken gate Electrical failure Hole suddenly appeared in track Burst water pipe Bad rain forecast in the next 48hrs Volcano Can’t be arsed On holiday Note: Don’t use burst water pipe as you’re in for it from the cartel. If you’re a cartel team though, go for it.
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Good point. I’d say around 80% to 90% less than cared in the 70’s and 80’s.
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After the excellent away win a Leicester they followed it up with two superb wins at tricky Kings Lynn & Peterborough. Both these latter two meetings really show off the Witches title winning credentials, especially the last heat decider against the Panthers. If they beat Kings Lynn next week then I’d say they’ve one hand on the trophy.
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You don’t remember rightly as the 25/75 percent rule wasn’t around at the time and was introduced in 2020. Whilst you’re correct that the first play off meeting was 21/09/16, you’re forgetting that the cut off date for where we move from qualification period to play off period was a week before. The last meeting of the qualifying period was 16/09/16 (https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/speedway/14748998.chequered-flag-report-lakeside-hammers-58-swindon-robins-35/ ) Wolverhampton’s last qualifying meeting was 12/09/16 just three weeks after Tai’s first meeting back. I suppose I could have said Tai was signed three weeks before the play off qualification period ended but I didn’t think I needed to as I thought the term play offs covered this. Following his 2016 debut with the Wolves, Tai rode at Monmore on 2 further nights before their final qualifying meeting.
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I can’t put my hand on the 2017 regs when the Tai ringer rule was first applied. I’d imagine they’d be similar to the 2018 regs that forbade any changes for fixtures after 15/08/2018. The play offs started over four weeks after this date on 17/09/2018. The initial Tai ringer rule was in connection with his signing in 2016 just three weeks before the play offs when they knew he couldn’t gain a new average and therefore be eligible to do it all over again the following year. Thankfully the powers that be saw sense and put a stop to such things. It’s crazy that in the intervening years the window between allowable team changes and play offs has shrunk making the Tai ringer rule almost redundant.
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Leicester lions 2023 (PREMIERSHIP)
ouch replied to PhilTheAce's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
Any club that gives a debut to a superstar that isn’t covering for a badly injured rider, three weeks or so before the play off cut off are just grim individuals. Doesn’t sit well with me and I’m not bothered if it goes against the grain on here, we’ll never agree on this. Play fair or not at all in my book. Many ex fans feel the same way. -
He couldn’t even do that as there is only Jason near him at the top of the averages. Good luck in you battle with the Bates’.
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It was in reply to Mike’s question about whether he’d return for this year’s playoffs. I definitely think you’ll return next year which is great.
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I think it would take a Leicester (Bates) win at Sheffield (Bates) during the qualifying meetings to keep Ipswich out, it’s that close. Play off meetings can be so financially rewarding. No Emil return I’m afraid.
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What does Tai Woffinden mean?
ouch replied to Hamish McRaker's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
So this is wrong then? ”There wasn’t enough fixtures for him to get a new average as he was signed as a ringer for the play offs.” Lambert couldn’t rider in earlier meetings as Max wasn’t injured. Basic stuff here lad. -
What does Tai Woffinden mean?
ouch replied to Hamish McRaker's topic in SGB Premiership Speedway League
There wasn’t enough fixtures for him to get a new average as he was signed as a ringer for the play offs. The Wolves alternative is he was not a ringer and rode loads of meetings. The BSPA just couldn’t be bothered calculating his new average so left it. -
What you mean to say is nobody cheers when ANY rider gets hurt - I hope!
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Very bitter, because your only contribution to the whole sorry saga was cheering when Joonas got injured. So sad.
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Did Tai ride enough meetings in 2016 to gain a new average? Was Joonas fit to ride in those consecutive meetings? Was the ringer rule brought in for the 2017 season? Just trying to get my facts straight. Thanks in advance for your assistance in answering these questions.
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His 7.03 average is from 2014 (http://www.speedwaygbarchive.co.uk/14issues/el14_issue29.pdf) as he didn’t ride in enough meetings in 2016 with him being brought in for the play offs.(https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/p23_issue_23.pdf) He replaced the unfortunate Joonas Kylmakorpi who had increased his average for Wolves but stupidly on his part increased it to 7.06. (http://www.speedwaygbarchive.co.uk/files/downloads/el16_issue_25.pdf) This is when CVS ditched the poor lad in favour of the World Champion. No 8 point reassessments back then for GP men, even the world champion. Kylmakorpi wasn’t injured and the ringers rule was brought in the next season due to Wolves tactics. (The SCB website doesn’t offer archival information on past publications but evidence of the newly added ringer rule can be seen in the 2017 play off final where Wolves we’re not only denied the opportunity of signing Tai as a ringer again, they couldn’t even sign replacements for two injured heat leaders in Lindgren & Thorsell. This was and is ridiculous imo and as we have seen subsequently, rendered the tie a none even. http://www.speedwaygbarchive.co.uk/17results/wolverhampton_04.10.17_res.pdf) Crowds continued to drop alarmingly in the UK.