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Though the rule was in the rule book last season it wasn’t upheld so I figure Freddie and any assessed rider can now guest.

He was treated differently due to his situation being different from other riders.

Delete Brady please.

Apart from Edinburgh’s NDL team, to name one. Your post is a lovely idea though.

Glad to hear it was a good night of racing as I’ve been one of those who has taken a dim view of the circuit. Is there a stream to catch up or maybe you can fill in the blanks on the updates site? They only mention 8,12 & 13 where anything happened after part way through the first lap. Looking forward to the Aces visit now things are looking up racingwise.

Must admit, it doesn’t sit right with me when people make hay due to the misfortune of others. That’s across the board and not just speedway. That undercurrent of glee when a team is hit by injury as opposing fans see their chances of success increase is abhorrent to me, old fashioned I know and very much in the minority on here. The “Tai” rule (apparently) needs to be in place to do what it was set out to do - stop unscrupulous clubs signing ringers for the play offs - but it should NOT impact clubs with genuine long term injury woes. I’d much rather come up against the Witches or Tigers with Bartoz as a full team member than the current preferred system of guests, guests, guests, especially at the time of year when the media takes a greater interest in the sport.

More than likely attending this one, my first Aces away meeting for many a year though it does still fit my criteria of only attending if it doesn’t put me out so being nearby helps that. The general chatter on here is that it provides decent racing so I hope that’s the case win or lose. I’d rather have an entertaining meeting and lose than a gate ‘n’ go win. With the Aces in town and Harris, Wright & Tungate, I’m optimistic.

You cannot now replace an injured team member as you could in 2022. BSPL prefer guests from the lower teams/division.

Apart from the BSPL. The rule is for the last quarter of the season plus play offs and cups etc, teams MUST use guests if they are already operating R/R. Necessary evil? Not now, it’s the (unnecessary) rule and just at the point of the year when media attention is at it’s highest.

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You’re mistaken.

That is some reply. Saying “I believe other riders in a similar position have guested”. Why the need to “believe”, you should either know if they have or haven’t and give examples (they haven’t). I have no idea what the CL converted average is all about as those riders don’t have an * against their entry in the official declarations, it’s just altered (by 1.5) as Connor Mountains was at the beginning of the season. Shockingly inept reply and I’d actually prefer if they just fronted up and said it’s dodgy, it’s wrong but it’s what we want so suck it up.

Message to racegoers from the Belle Vue Charitable Trust For those racegoers unaware, Belle Vue has a Trust which was set up to support our riders and other charitable initiatives, supporting those in need of help. For those who contribute regularly to the 50:50 draw and Chase's White Line Challenge, those proceeds go into the trust to raise funds for these causes. Following Tate's crash on Monday, the Trust has got to action and kindly agreed to pay for Tate's Mum's flight to the UK from Australia so she can be with him as he enters his next stage of recovery. The trust has also been liaising with the team at the Speedway Riders Benevolent Fund who will support with expenses whilst here in the UK and we're sure the other crowd funding / fundraising initiatives will help him get back on his feet, replace damaged equipment and cover expenses in the months to come. All of this would not be possible without the tremendous support we receive week in week out from the supporters of Belle Vue Speedway and the unfailing efforts of David Burroughs and his Belle Vue Speedway Supporters Club (BVSSC) team. And not forgetting, the great support shown at tracks across the country for Benevolent Fund track collections. A huge thank you to you all and a huge personal thank you. Philip Gunning, Chair of Trustees.

With regards the collision, it was just a racing incident with no malice intended. The referee has to disqualify someone and that can lead fans to thinking a dirty move has taken place when it hasn’t. Awful end to a fabulous debut. I look forward to his return as he seems a real Ace. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Rew guest for Tate at our next home meeting. After that we need a replacement due to the transfer window closing on us. Might see Jye back or an untried 4 pointer.

We can agree that the SCB are inconsistent in how rulings are dealt with but I disagree about Kurtz looking bad. He never had to say he wouldn’t ride in the UK as aside from his aborted attempt at a comeback and his chase for individual glory (as riders have done for decades), he hasn’t rode anywhere until fit this weekend.

Checked and you are correct. Brady 21/05/24 Injured 23/05/24 Missed Oxford away 25/05/24 Rode FIM like Collins & Carter etc…. 26/05/24-27/06/24 he rode one meeting in Poland, pulling out before completing his rides due to his injury issues. 28/06/24 Subsequently fit to take in his fixtures as they fell. I think you are justified in thinking the riders mentioned above are #+%*#^. I’m of a different opinion, which is what the forum is all about.

Not with you. Please elaborate.

Official declarations from when he arrived until the seasons end had him marked as “* assessed due to one of the following. Est MA older than prev 2 seasons.” https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/p23_issue_26.pdf https://britishspeedway.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/p23_issue_34.pdf From 2023 rules. 011.4.2 Guest Rider (G) C. the guest must be in a current team declaration and have an established MA.

Lambert did last season.

Why would they do that (trolling)? Don’t know what they get out of it.

If he wanted an all Aussie team he wouldn’t have replaced Max with Dan.

In other words we need a gater. I’m happy with Tate if he’s the racer people say he is.

It’s got Brady in the team but people said he’s banned. Confused.

The unpalatable truth for us fans is that people don’t like speedway. I’ve listed the lengths the Aces have gone to both currently and in the past and I’ve seen first hand the apathy towards the sport when I’m banging the drum with friends, family & colleagues. Our support is literally dying out and something needs to change to make it more appealing. The meeting on Monday was one of the best I’ve seen in over 50 years of watching the sport but you could have it on a loop in the Arndale or wherever and it would make little to no difference to the long term support. It’s a worry, a big worry.