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Great feedback on the content as this is something that will improve and evolve over time with input such as this. I think my attachment was one of the earlier efforts. It’s the trick or algorithm as you call it that gets us in front of newbies from the local area, as used successfully by non league football clubs, that’s the bit we need to be emulating, with your assistance. It seems to be pointless putting all these many videos up if they don’t have the reach.
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Must admit I don’t know the difference between a Vlog and a normal YouTube video and I would think the club don’t either seeing as all the videos out there are not making an impact. Whatever the formula is that gets it in front of people as you have described needs applying. I’ve included a link to one such video from last season which seems to tick a lot of the boxes regarding the content you are looking for. Whenever BVTV are streaming a meeting the 30mins prior are available free and I know a link is usually included on the meeting thread on here. It’s just that thing of getting this content easily in front of Joe Public and it looks like, from what you’ve said, it’s doable. https://youtu.be/KYkL_Nrni4c?si=UF6HQD2pP_WL7FxU
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British final 15th August
ouch replied to Neila's topic in Speedway Testimonials & Individual and Shared Events
Richard Lawson doesn’t do the British Final anymore because he doesn’t like the NSS. -
The fact it’s the Colts makes no difference to people who don’t know the difference between Dan & Billy Budd - right? The radio ad was recent and was played over the PA at the NSS. Junior Vue started in the noughties, my daughter was the first member. The MEN cover The Aces. Billboards have advertised FIM events at BELLE VUE and there was a billboard for many years near Hyde Rd. The whole front of the NSS is an image of The Aces. There was a school visit last season. The fact most of this didn’t make a dent on you shows it’s not just about doing what all the fans on here seem to want and bemoan about the fact it’s not being done. I live 500 yards from Edgeley Park and I don’t have a clue about anything the club are up to as I have zero interest. With regards YouTube, they need to get last year’s British Final race from Belle Vue. I’m sure that would get plenty of views and following that we’re away.
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Belle Vue regularly dropped admission charges to £15 or less with any number of kids free. They ran on a Sunday afternoon to help boost crowds. 99.9% of the 2.75 million didn’t care that Dan & Brady wasn’t riding but the problem was nobody turned up, well 500 on a good day. They couldn’t even get speedway fans to attend even though they had been told six days before that it was happening. When you add in the fact that they have repeatedly tried …… Have an advert on local radio over an extended period of time. Have an advert in local newspapers over an extended period of time. Have an advertising board on some of the busiest roads in Manchester. Have posters in shops and businesses. Had out flyers in local shopping areas. Have a float or attend local fairs and carnivals. Attend local & national trade shows. Give out free tickets to schools and businesses. Take bikes and merchandise into schools to accompany the talk they deliver on the sport. Have a standing display of bike, suits & merchandise in the city centre. Be featured on local tv news’s 4 or 5 times between March and October. Have a regular editorial in local papers. Have a 30 minute highlights programme on a local tv satellite station. Form a tie up with local groups and offer free entry and supporters club membership. Attend (and win) local sports team of the year awards. Constant bombardment of social media posts across all the mayor platforms. I’m a speedway nut but I’ve more than halved my attendance due to the fact that the majority is boring sh^%<e!
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Belle Vue regularly dropped admission charges to £15 or less with any number of kids free. They ran on a Sunday afternoon to help boost crowds. 99.9% of the 2.75 million didn’t care that Dan & Brady wasn’t riding but the problem was nobody turned up, well 500 on a good day. They couldn’t even get speedway fans to attend even though they had been told six days before that it was happening. When you add in the fact that they have repeatedly tried …… Have an advert on local radio over an extended period of time. Have an advert in local newspapers over an extended period of time. Have an advertising board on some of the busiest roads in Manchester. Have posters in shops and businesses. Had out flyers in local shopping areas. Have a float or attend local fairs and carnivals. Attend local & national trade shows. Give out free tickets to schools and businesses. Take bikes and merchandise into schools to accompany the talk they deliver on the sport. Have a standing display of bike, suits & merchandise in the city centre. Be featured on local tv news’s 4 or 5 times between March and October. Have a regular editorial in local papers. Have a 30 minute highlights programme on a local tv satellite station. Form a tie up with local groups and offer free entry and supporters club membership. Attend (and win) local sports team of the year awards. Constant bombardment of social media posts across all the mayor platforms. I’m a speedway nut but I’ve more than halved my attendance due to the fact that the majority is boring sh^%<e!
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This has been done previously at Belle Vue, Leicester & Workington. Good to see other clubs come along and carry the burden - well done. Maybe you’ll discover another Bailey, Bickley, Bewley, Flint, Hodder, Howarth, Pearson, Smith or Worrall to use in your team to help you show the way.
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They should have the window display in Piccadilly again with the bike and race suit etc. The extensive use of billboards looked good on previous occasions and should be continued. I’m sure they’ll have the local TV again doing spots on all there broadcasts to the millions of locals. An Aces hub in the city would be good but its manning it that is the problem with all hands to the pump at the stadium to sort the actual event. Even a large Cardiff type crowd of 25-35 thousand fans wouldn’t make a dent in Manchester and the cost of taking over somewhere like Freight Island wouldn’t work financially. The only way any kind of speedway atmosphere could happen in the city centre is if a social media meet up was organised but even then it would be just another group in Manchester. Maybe they could utilise the empty space between the diamond lodge and the old bingo hall to create a large food, drink, social area for before & after the event. The fan zone can remain on the pitch behind the temporary stand as that seemed to work well.
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Just had an email to renew my season ticket at The Aces for £22.50 a match... Hmmmm.. £22.50 to watch around 90 mins of Premiership speedway, which is exciting , has drama, has a your team feel, prizes worth winning (£500 50/50 draw), and a consistent operating model, or £59, to watch 3 or 4 mins (depending on how many goals) of interesting Premier League football with the only drama being when someone pretends to hurt his toe. Decisions, Decisions... Whilst the football league are happy to pay 18 million a year on blokes that can walk down a street (mine away) unnoticed whilst still being 1.8 billion in debt is crazy and it’s only the fans that continue to point this out whilst these rich hobbyists carry on a debt path that will ultimately collapse. Easy this isn’t it. I think I’ll buy myself a new keyboard, now where’s cut & paste for next time and the next and the next.
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Looks like it’s across the board at £25/£23 entrance fee. They must have got their heads together on this one. Only saving grace with the smaller league is fans outlay to see their team before any cup progression is less this year. Whether this represents value for money at your particular track is another thing.
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It would been advantageous to play off qualification if you could visit Northampton early as they have no kind of home advantage. They will have a handle on things come July so those later visits should provide a challenge to visitors.
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They could call this league the National league or maybe whilst developing the sport in the country call it The National Development League.
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Northampton could quite easily kick off on the late bank holiday Monday and have more than enough time to fit in 10 league fixtures and 1 KO Cup before the cut off. If a late start means we get the same amount of teams as some previous seasons, then I’m all for it.
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Dash it - what a mistake to make.
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I’ve not seen this, do you have a link?
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The reduction from 4.00 to 3.00 was put in place when the rule book was being formulated for the 2025 season. There was a promoter who just missed the boat for the 2024 regs after this particular rule wasn’t to his liking. Can’t remember witch one.
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I was replying to a poster who stated we had Brady & Dan in the team for the 2021 play off final. This was factually incorrect. I still think it’s a good idea to limit the amount of Brits (or Brit in our case) being sacked mid season. That’s opinion not attitude and I get some fans disagree as we often get chastised for being too loyal. Last year we used 2 guests and stuck with the same 1-7. I like that and I understand others don’t but there is now need to get all passive aggressive in subsequent posts. I’m baffled that fans don’t agree with how we do things but as it’s generally (rich) fans who run the sport, it’s not lost on me as to why our sport is in such a mess.
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Poor post. “Crap Aussie”. Unnecessary.
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Wouldn’t it be great if other teams did this an infrequently as The Aces and maybe offset the dropping of a Brit by promoting British youth development? It’s this bigger picture thinking that is sadly lost on promotions and fans of other clubs but as the saying goes “we’re from Manchester, we do things differently here”. Sadly, we can’t do it all alone, and other fans and promotions continue to fiddle (literally in some cases) whilst Rome burns.
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Jordan Palin was great and took a fine paid win in heat 7 against Brady’s replacement. The panthers then just had to solider on by using their two top scorers (Harris & Nicholls) in Hans’ last two rides. A real backs to the wall performance from the beleaguered panthers against the perennially lucky Aces.
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No Brady due to our famous Play Off injury jinx. The Worralls took four of his play off rides with Jye Etheridge taking one. Ouch!
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Doubling up became a total joke. One season an ENTIRE premiership team was made up of double uppers and there were two other riders used in that team who were also double uppers making it NINE in total. Promoters such as this one have presided over the steep decline of our sport, usually from a position of power at the top table. Little wonder we find ourselves where we are with this kind of promoter running the show. Danny King (Poole) Craig Cook (Glasgow) Jason Crump (Plymouth) Jake Allen (Redcar) Paul Starke (Kent) Anders Rowe (Edinburgh) Drew Kemp (Edinburgh) Cameron Heep (Kent) Jordon Stewart (Redcar)
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The last ten fixtures at Foxhall prior to the witches title winning year were DLLLWWWLLW with one of those losses being a last heat decider. 50% success rate for the witches. Last year was a disaster for The Aces particularly the early KO cup fixture where Brady was saving himself for the final GP some 22 weeks later.
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I’d like to think it would be different but Belle Vue have tried for decades with Adrian being the last of many from Manchester. Self interest, with Louis being an example of that, have stifled the sport enormously. We just do our own thing now whilst things crumble around us.