Crump99

Labour wants to build more houses like every government before them, it never happens and they'll be out in 58 months anyway. There are many moving parts to this so it's important to keep the pressure on Peterborough City Council with basic objections. Those with the knowledge will attack with the more pointed, specific objections.

The EoES is brownfield so grey belt doesn't apply.

Yes, important for everyone to note: If you wish to comment on this application you should ensure that your written comments are received by 5 October 2024. Comments received after this date will be taken into consideration only if the application has not already been determined

AEPG plans to be considered by councillors on October 15 If you objected to the East of England development then I guess that you've received an e-mail from planningcontrol@peterborough.gov.uk This has hit the local press today https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/people/30-days-more-consultation-as-decision-day-looms-for-east-of-england-showground-development-plans-4772020 Overall they reportedly have changed nothing of significance and Peterborough Speedway is gone, can permanently expire within the city of Peterborough and take its small selfish cohort of speedway fans with it. If you objected then I suggest that you quickly reiterate your position to counter the letters from friends and family that Butterfield is allegedly going to produce. If you haven't objected then give it a go and bump up the numbers. It's simple and painless: Planning Application 23/00412/OUT is where Peterborough Speedway sits. Planning Application 23/00400/OUT is the unagreed part of the development outside of the local plan which means that with the addition of this scheme AEPG can't meet the EoES part of their obligations within LP36 & LP30 Just a reminder of the objections from BSP Ltd/SCB: Sept 2023 http://plandocs.peterborough.gov.uk/PublicDocuments/01321287.pdf May 2024 http://plandocs.peterborough.gov.uk/PublicDocuments/01342678.pdf

Interesting piece in the ET today (Aug 9) about 100 new shared ownership houses (sounds like a dogs dinner?) at something called Haddon Abbott, for Hackney overspill I assume? More importantly it mentions the wider Great Haddon development which is expected to provide 5,350 homes, 9,000 jobs, four schools, three shopping centres and sports facilities. Makes Butterfield's AEPG vision look like an afterthought? It also challenges his claim that Peterborough is crying out for such a development at the EoES. In the unlikely event that it ever gets off the ground, in a decade's time there will be plenty of alternatives.

What does some form mean? Any Panthers operation away from the EoES will just be the cherry on top for AEPG and nobody is going to put right the wreckage of the EoES for a short lease (even if Butterfield sees the light that he shows no interest in opening his eyes to). AEPG can't rewrite history or the planning process, despite the Labour government, and enough people are staying, and will stay interested regardless, to make it uncomfortable for them.

AEPG want/wanted the site clear of commercial operations & they want Peterborough Speedway gone (as it has for 2024) and forgotten about so that they can argue that they've met at least one element of LP30 in the Peterborough Local Plan (2016-2036 Adopted 24 July 2019) before this all goes to the Peterborough City Council’s Planning Committee: LP30 k. The facility is demonstrably no longer fit for purpose and the site is not viable to be redeveloped for a new community facility; or - (Sport England acknowledged that Panthers not running has complicated the issue). l. The service provided by the facility is met by alternative provision that exists within reasonable proximity: what is deemed as reasonable proximity will depend on the nature of the facility and its associated catchment area - Funnily enough AEPG's commissioned site reports provider (Kings Lynn based) suggests that Panthers owner's preferred operation provides an equal customer experience to the EoES and the Panthers faithful can go there If Panthers were to return in 2025 then the AEPG plans are toast and I can't see them doing a re-write? Butterfield has 100,000 people supporting his unwanted vision!

Given that AEPG have totally vandalised the operational speedway circuit/stadium handed over to them in Oct 2023, then that agreement would have to be in place now. There would need to be serious work ongoing now to rectify the damage (track, lights, pits, fence, electrics, stand etc). Where is the money coming from for that lot? With only 12 weeks of British Summer Time left it's still stalemate waiting for Butterfield to blink first, which he shows no signs of doing as he builds his case behind the scenes. Unless the the consortium is working on their pulling a rabbit out of the hat trick then you can forget 2025. You might see Peterborough Speedway of some sort at some future point if people stay interested but it's going to be a long slog!

In July 2021 the EEAS appointed AEPG as promoters of the site for this redevelopment, and transferred East of England Showground Services Limited (SGS Ltd) to AEPG. (source: Showground Viability Assessment Report).

I only posted the brownfield bit which was the question and is both true and potentially, but not definitely, problematic. He's just one of Butterfield's 100,000 who, in this case, seems more concerned about the BACS transfer. I left out of the rest of the post. Otherwise, fine words we know but I hope we have the evidence because it's no good making a point without the receipts, as Dan Bongino would say! You can read the stuff on the planning portal to see that there that there is evidence to refute (I'm not saying that it's correct or accurate) those claims. The question is will PCC buy it and what influence will Labour's Pakes & the strange boy wonder from NW Cambs have on proceedings. if any?

Comments for Planning Application 23/00412/OUT: from a trustee of the East of England Agricultural Society Ltd: "The showground is not, as some would try to imply, "open countryside". It is a brownfield site"

Let's hope that 5% of those turn up at Orton Wistow Primary School hall on Wednesday July 17 at 6pm? I suspect that this is just a Greens/AEPG trap to say that there isn't significant opposition to the development.

I left the stadium after Chapman's shocking public address and didn't return again. Chapman said in his end of season 2022 announcement that he could see a few more years at the EoES so why would the club have been trackless for 2024? Something changed with his and AEPG's position and he seemingly played along and rolled over and had his tummy tickled, making no effort on the face of it to save the club. He even gave AEPG their end of season PR coup. Anyone who supported that really needs to have a word with themselves!

Of course it all sounds logical but that doesn't mean that you have to give up and accept it. It's a weak one sided argument from Butterfield who's obviously feeling the heat as friends and family plead for the planning process to be speeded up and the EEAS whine that they need the money. If AEPG can't navigate their way out of their local plan and NPPF responsibilities then they are going to have to find new land (on or off site) and dip their hands in their pockets to pay for it. Or as the BSPA say, it shouldn't even get that far? The Save Peterborough Speedway consortium may stand alone but it doesn't take much to hang this planning process up. AEPG know that and the last thing that they need is more delay and timetable slippage!

He was just in a safe environment where he could spout ignorant cobblers with nobody to call him out (a fellow money grabber at the end said "that's what people do" ie object and fight for their sport in this case). Those are the type of meetings and consultations that he likes to attend.