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You're right! Ostafinski is nothing but a JOKE link for English speakers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0CD4vq1HnE

I value your above opinion...but the exchange started when you said that "Madsen has never done anything to suggest he would be competitive at GP level" My reply was that he has, and I backed it up by saying that in the 2017 EkstraLiga averages is ranked at no. 4.... (before Jason Doyle), and that proves to me that he can mix with the best.

Don't make me laugh. Of course he wasn't...and you should know why.

And Madsen has never done anything to suggest he would be competitive at GP level. Madsen is no.4 in Polish EkstraLiga 2017 averages...in front of Jason Doyle, etc., Why performance in SWC should determine SGP wild card for this or other rider. Tell me why. In my opinion performance throughtout the year in the world top three leagues (Polish,Swedish,Danish/British(?) competion should be taken into consideration

Bartosz Zmarzlik has been named as the 2017 EkstraLiga best Polish rider. In the "best Polish rider" category he picked up 37.09 percent of the speedway supporters votes. For comparison, the second ranked Maciej Janowski picked up eight percent less votes. For the 22-year-old this is the second award in row . A year ago, the Gorzów rider also won supporters award as the best Polish rider. "It's a great honour for me. I'm very happy and thank all the fans for my votes. I am doubly satisfied, because for the second year in a row I won this award. Zmarzlik said on Radio Gorzów. The Gorzów rider finished this season with a CMA of 9.50 which placed him at the top of EkstraLiga averages.

Bartosz Zmarzlik has been named as the 2017 EkstraLiga best Polish rider. In the "best Polish rider" category he picked up 37.09 percent of the speedway supporters votes. For comparison, the second ranked Maciej Janowski picked up eight percent less votes. For the 22-year-old this is the second award in row . A year ago, the Gorzów rider also won supporters award as the best Polish rider. "It's a great honour for me. I'm very happy and thank all the fans for my votes. I am doubly satisfied, because for the second year in a row I won this award. Zmarzlik said on Radio Gorzów. The Gorzów rider finished this season with a CMA of 9.50 which placed him at the top of EkstraLiga averages.

SportoweFakty.pl reports: Gdansk's speedway boss, Tadeusz Zdunek, last Sunday, after the EkstraLiga decisive promotion/relegation battle revealed that in the week preceding the meeting his riders were getting strange proposals. Over time it became apparent that Kacper Gomólski got an offer from one of the Torun club sponsors -, I.e. PLN 100 thousand and a contract in Toruń, in exchange for poor riding . The corruption department of the Provincial Police Headquarters in Gdańsk has already taken over the recording with a corruption proposal. The first witnesses were also interviewed, including Mirosław Kowalik, Gdansk's team manager. There is also the first detainee a 40-year-old man. The event took place on Tuesday. The police does not want to reveal even the man's initials. It also does not confirm whether it is a sponsor who came up with a proposal to the player. According to the official statement, the detainee faces up to 8 years in prison

sportowefakty.pl described this as: - In a "derby" event, this is the lowest attendance figure for 9 years, and the lowest home attendance figure since 2014.

You're correct in guessing that. Even second place is a failure. What counts is the win.

Only Falubaz !!!!

We (the Poles) were saying the same thing going back to the 70's and 80's when the Iron Curtain was solid, and we were "the poor cousins" As far as I am aware riders nowdays (from all countries) have equal access to modern technology, so what's stopping UK riders to have the same machinery as their PL rivals?

How very true ! The question arises who is responsible for the fact that this once mighty pond got so small?

Before the last two heats PL U-21 team becomes world champions for the 10th time

After 12 heats PL - 26 AU - 22 DK -17 GB - 11

Fricke's elbow finishing line action for everyone to see

An interesting text written by the former Poole rider, Krzysztof Cegielski, appeared in sportowefakty.pl Below is my translation of it From the new season, the contract signing rates and the point scoring rates in the Polish 2nd and 3rd speedway leagues have been lowered. So far, the riders competing in the Polish 2nd tier of competition could get a maximum of 80 thousand zlotys (around £17’500.00) just for signing a contract. From the new season this amount will decrease to 60 thousand (around £13K). Instead of 1200 zł (£260) per point, there will be 1100 zł £240). Riders competing in the lowest (3rd ) league will also be affected because the signature under the contract will earn no longer 25 thousand zl (£5.500), but 20 thousand zlotys (£4.350). All this was confirmed at the last meeting by the club’s chairmen, which took place in Grudziądz. Scandal? No. Reason for a strong reaction? also no.. Just a few years ago, I was so excited about this kind of topic. With time, emotions regarding this subject have dropped. I just know that these new decisions are just written records, and the reality is most often different altogether. We are coming to the point where speedway ( in Poland) for lower division riders does not pay enough for living. The “interesting” thing is that clubs - in a sense - created a problem for themselves. I am convinced that the club’s CEOs are setting up something, then go home, and later some of them will propose to riders something completely different, i.e. better conditions. I also know exactly why the CEOs are creating such a problem. Each reduction in official quotes is a security for them. All funds that go beyond the contract are not subject to the licensing process. Written rules are just written rules and what the riders earnings are going to be will be decided by the rules of the free market. Nothing will stop this, because in every club there are and always were ways to bypass the rules. Earnings are made up by the sponsor’s payment, and a man who directly manages the whole business. Cheating on each other will continue. Unfortunately, we will still continue to strive for pathology and pretend that we (in Poland) have a genuine licensing process. There is nothing to stop it. Such a mechanism was invented by the governors, and the riders are agreeing with this. The arguments on this matter have long since ceased to make sense.

Speak for yourself... not the whole Poland

My apologies if I mislaed you... yes Bydgoszcz are for now in the Nice 1 Liga Zuzlowa...but in reality they have been relageted to the Nice 2 Liga Zuzlowa. “I am taking over the company and all responsibility for it. I do not need any advisors” - announced Wladyslaw Gollob, when he began building Polonia Bydgoszcz team for the 2016 season in the Nice Polska Liga, The team was to be made up of former and current local riders with two young Russians, Kudriashov and Kulakov. There was also a place for Oskar Ajtner-Gollob, his grandson, and Jacek Gollob son. In the first (2016) season under Gollob’s ownership, Bydgoszcz club managed (only just) to survive and avoided relegation. This year, with more or less the same team they failed, managing only one win and one draw out of 13 meeting home and away. As the new owner, Wladyslaw Gollob found the club in an extremely bad situation, in terms of sport and finances. In sport terms he took over the club which was relegated to the lower Nice 1 Liga Zuzlowa division and in financial terms press reports at the time were saying that the club was 1 million Pound Sterling in debts.. Many were doubtful whether the club would ever get straight. Crushing defeats with the top 1 Polska liga zuzlowa teams showed that there was a class difference The two Russians, Andrei Kudriashov and Viktor Kulakov were not so bad last season but in 2017 they lowered their performances for which they apologised. The club chairman is trying to see some advantages. These include timely payments and debt reduction. With over five million zlotys of debt, only 1.5 million left to be settled. " … Wladyslaw Gollob was born in Gdynia in 1937. He came to Bydgoszcz with his parents after the war. They settled in Bydgoszcz run down district called “Londynek”. Wladyslaw had his first contact with a motorbike when he was still a pupil at the Technical College in Gdansk, and it became his passion for life. In order to avoid three years compulsory military service in the navy, Wladyslaw obtained a glider pilot license. The reason was simple - compulsory service in the Air Force took only 2 years . He completed army service in the famous VI Airborne Division. Old residents living near the Gollob family remember the motobikes in the backyard or on the pavements. They all belonged to Wladylaw Gollob and his two sons, whom he had implanted his passion for bikes Tomasz rode on bikes before he even started primary school. As a thirteen / fourteen year old the Gollob boys were already winners of medals in the Polish motocross championships in the 50, 80 and 125 ccm classes. Tomasz and his older brother were spending most of their time with their father,, watching how he prepared their engines. In 1987 Polonia Bydgoszcz coach and trainer, Ryszard Nieścieruk, heard about the extremely talented boys riding for the motor-cross club just outside Bydgoszcz. He also heard that the boys father was very inaccessible, cautious and mistrustful. The Polonia club former rider knew somebody within his family who was on familiar terms with Mr Gollob. His mission persuading the father was successful and the Gollob brothers made appearance on the Bydgoszcz speedway track. They took to it like a fish to the water. At the turn of the 80s and 90s, the Gollob era began in the Polonia club, where the clan had almost always enemies, real or imaginary one - also in its own team. The first was Ryszard Dolomisiewicz. who according to the “Papa” Gollob was treated more favourable than his sons. Later the "enemy" was American Sam Ermolenko - "because he assembled coalition of foreign riders against young Gollob", and the longest one was Piotr Protasiewicz. The Gollob Brothers era in Polonia Bydgoszcz ended fourteen years ago. At that time, the former BKS Polonia multi sport Bydgoszcz club broke up, and the speedway section was taken over by new entity, BTZ Polonia. The Gollob brothers decided to leave Bydgoszcz and signed for the wealthy Tarnów in the south of Poland. In the press interviws Jacek Gollob said that the reason it happened was because their father, Wladyslaw, was badly treated: “ for me and Tomasz our father is a leader, us three have been together for many years now, we are a team" What could they have against a distinguished old genteleman who always played fair in Bydgoszcz? And that - not the money - is the main reason for the change of the club "- explained Jacek Gollob. Since then, none of Władysław Gollob's sons have ever competed in Polonia colours. In Bydgoszcz, however, they were still important personalities. In 2010 Tomasz firmly supported local politician for the mayor post, After his victorious campaign, Wladyslaw Gollob was even mentioned among the candidates for the speedway club chairman. Five years later, at the age of 78 he returned as the owner of Polonia Bydgoszcz club.

The track is still the same, but not the management which caused the club enormous debts. The riders contracted for 2017 season were such that you most likely never heard of. So Bydgoszcz is now in a place they have been inevitably going for the last few years. Former management's years of neglect, waste and lack of a rational idea how to run a club resulted with degredation to the Polish lowest division. For the last two seasons the club has been in hands of Mr Wladyslaw Gollob, father of the Gollob brothers, Tomasz and Jacek, who said two years ago that his priority is getting rid of debts. The answer to your question : what the hecks happened to Bydgoszcz in the simplest way is that Bydgoszcz had a team made up of riders that were not good enough even for the 2nd division. Why they contrated such riders? Because of their financial situation. When Wladyslaw Gollob, father of the Gollob brothers, Tomasz and Jacek, took over the club it had debts in a range of 1 milion Pound Sterling. After two years of Gollob snr rule the debt has been reduced to about 300K, but the club is in the lowest division. Wladyslaw Gollob does not treat degradation to the lowest league as a personal failure. "If I was sitting on a motorbike and had to deliver the points, then one could say so. The club’s financial capacity is miserable to say the least But at least the club was paying riders on time - he said. What's happens next? Who knows. Everything has to be started from the beginning.

Steve Shovlar gives impression that he knows averything about speedway. Perhaps he does know about speedway run by BSPA...but clearly he does not know FIM rules. In meetings run under FIM the referee - I'm told - is obliged to stop the race if any of four rider crosses the inside line with both wheels, and that what's happened with Janowski. So if anything stinks here it was not the referee.

I agree...he obviously does know more about what British speedway needs than the BSPA... but - he is not the BSPA! One man against those who THINK they know better.

what counts in speedway is an individual title, anythingbelse is the second best

Apparently, Polsat TV (open channel), is covering this as well. So anyone having access to satellite TV should be able to find Polsat TV

If I were you then in futue I would be more specific and call a spade a spade. We Poles, and I for one, became very sensitive and irate since the people in the West are saying "Polish death camps", etc., whereas in truth the camps were built and operated by Germans (Nazis) although - granted - on invaded and occupied Polish soil. But this does not make them "Polish". Anyway...thanks for responding and explaining your way of thinking.

Krystian Plech is NOT a rider,,, and never was. His father (Zenon) was...but Krystian? never. He runs Speedway Crime Agency. speedwaystarmag BREAKING | @RyeHouseFans sign former world No.2 Krzysztof Kasprzak as a reserve following his release by Poole. He replaces Justin Sedgmen. twitter.com/Kasprzak507/st… 28.07.2017, 22:07 speedwaystarmag BREAKING | @RyeHouseFans sign former world No.2 Krzysztof Kasprzak as a reserve following his release by Poole. He replaces Justin Sedgmen. twitter.com/Kasprzak507/st… 28.07.2017, 22:07