RobMcCaffery

Of course, Philip. I should have quoted a source of high repute ;-)

Https: Wartersports.con? Racing starts 18.10 (UK).

I see SF aren't doing live updates of the meeting itself. Perhaps that's part of the reason? I've found the heat details on the SGP website are the same as was announced here a while back for event 2, probably posted by yourself. Poland v Great Britain in heat 1.

If they reach heat 14 it can be declared a result. If not, past practice is to start again from heat 1. Separately, did nobody at BT think of teaching Charlie Webster how to pronounce the names of riders and officials?

Could be fun for BT Sport if it does run tomorrow morning. A 10 am stat (11 am in Poland) is fine, until 12.00 when they've live sport on all four channels.

Better a decent meeting run late than a muddy procession run on time.

SF: 17.18 (UK) - Drizzling.

Further SF updates: 17.06 (UK) If postponed the restaging will be at 11 am Sunday (10 am UK) 17.07 (UK) Riders warming up bikes. Track testing to commence 17.45 - one rider from each team.

Because 97% humidity can make it difficult to dry the track out.

Sportowe Fakty are posting live updates from the track. If you have translating software installed this may be of help. https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/905234/zuzel-wielkie-odliczanie-do-jednodniowego-finalu-speedway-of-nations-na-zywo They report: 3.26 (UK) - rain stopped. 3.42 (UK) - Preparations underway 4.21 (UK) - Photo of wet track being worked on. Wet and even, not a ploughed field. ***UPDATE**** 4.31 Photos of track work. Dry straight + wet bend. 4.34 Not raining but high humidity could be problem. Looking optimistic.

Dave, you did fine, exceptionally in view of the lack of information available to you. Don't be discouraged, your style is engaging and thankfully lacking in hype. You have the knowledge, experience and enthusiasm for your subject that makes your commentary excellent company for a few hours. I've got a few stock car meetings on my Tivo to work through as well. As someone who tackled both speedway and stock car commentary I'm envious that you can be equally commanding in both sports. When it comes to commentary there's a lot of jealousy out there. It's been a tricky year. Enjoy your break and I look forward to hearing from you next spring. I do hope the bits of information I passed on were helpful. It's good to have someone on the mic who speaks the same language as the supporter. Thanlks, Rob.

He's been riding for Krosno in recent seasons.

I think the fans and sponsors would also appreciate getting a full season. They only get seven home matches a year after all. If we abandon it because Gorzow have already won the league do we cancel all heats after a team can't be caught in a match? It's not just about the result. If I were a Gniezno fan I'd like yo get my full season of speedway.

Some quotes from Sportowe Fakty. - If we want to watch the speedway advertising, we can go - says Oskar Fajfer in nSport +. - Everyone would like to ride under normal conditions - he adds. - Honestly speaking, the track is not suitable for driving - says Adrian Miedziński in nSport +. - As far as I know, almost nobody wants to go. There were some pressures on us to run the track rehearsal - adds Miedziński. - Some gentlemen would like to do so, but they probably never sat on a motorcycle - emphasizes Miedziński.

Match postponed. No date yet.

Many thanks. As you can tell I'm very keen to encourage this streaming. I'm practically housebound currently so these streams are a vital lifeline. There's only so much Polish speedway you can take.... Going forward, I'd prefer to access the on demand video without seeing the match report first. Keep up the good work and I hope you weren't let down by outside technology again. I always enjoy my trips to Armadale, whether in person or virtually. Thanks again

I wasn't able to watch the stream on Friday and was hoping to watch 'on demand' but it doesn't seem to be available.

SVEMO used to have a comprehensive live update service for each match. Is that still running? I think Sportowe Fakty also run updates on Swedish matches.

If not for outside technical faults in Scotland both Plymouth and Edinburgh productions were perfectly acceptable for the prices charged so I don't want anyone thinking they were of an unacceptable standard.

There was a lot of freezing and picture break-up and yes background sound was poor. All they can do is take what they are given by Swedish TV. In the same way the desperately poor graphics are Sweden's responsibility and Dave is quite right to despair at them. They're only rarely showing changes in heats nor the line-ups for the nominated races, apart from occasionally the gate positions, but no helmet colours in the pits. As Dave points out the standard team kevlars means he often has to rely on a lucky glimpse of the back of a race jacket or overhearing the stadium announcer. It's only once the riders hit the first bend that you can usually spot the changes which is no good for a commentator. He needs better information. There's not the same problem with Poland where the graphics are normally reliably updated whenever there's a rider change. The Swedes are leaving any rider who's being covered by rider-replacement in the heat lineups! No wonder he's getting frustrated.

Thank you both.

That illustrates how each offer needs to be assessed by each track individually. I do hope both Plymouth and Edinburgh made money from the streaming. Their enterprise deserved it.

Does anyone know how we can get the promised electronic programme? I can't see anywhere to download it from.

From the comments here I taske it Plymouth's streaming must have been loss-making at $4.99/c.£3.80. I bought a pass for this and the Edinburgh BYC staging at £5 and feel I got fair value for money. At that price point I DO expect grass roots racing covered by one camera and that's what I got. The Plymouth presentation was delightfully semi-chaotic while sadly the Edinburgh production was bedevilled by connectivity problems. They did the decent thing by apologising to subscribers directly and offering partial refunds along with explanations of the problems and how they would be resolved in future. At that price point you couldn't really expect much more but I watched two entertaining meetings in this barren 'season'. I've bought a pass for tonight's Belle Vue event and am happy to pay £10 for a SportCentral production with greater resources and professional commentary, also taking into account the costlier standard of riders employed. I'd equally be happy to pay £12.95 for the British Final if I didn't have other commitments over the weekend. Not all speedway meetings are run at the same level of ability and costs just as not all streaming or video is the same, so multiple price points are relevant. £12.95 for Plymouth or Edinburgh would have been too much. Equally £5 would be far too low for Belle Vue or Ipswich. What I would hate would that the Plymouth/Edinburgh-style events could not be repeated if the requirement was to do a multi-camera TV standard production at £12.95. The level and cost of the streaming should be dependent on the nature of the meeting. If Plymouth and Edinburgh were to stream weekly in the £5-10 price band I'd be happy to subscribe weekly. SportCentral's experience in streaming ice hockey surely gives them the best insight into what level of production or price is right. I suspect the ice hockey and speedway markets are probably fairly similar. Ultimately you get what you pay for. One standard of coverage at one price is NOT the way forward. There's room for British Finals at £12.95 and Plymouth NDL matches at £3.80.

That's good. I look forward to watching further streaming. I know WMTV's standards are high and there's not much you can do in last week's situation. I've also really enjoyed the Rewinds, especially Mike's distinctive commentaries.