RobMcCaffery

Just to highlight the significance of the King's Lynn away meeting, at present Poole have all three of their final matches scheduled to be staged before the cut-off. They currently have 40 points and the points available from those three meetings (1 home, two away) gives them a potential final total of 51. As for the Rockets. They have 36 with five matches to race, three home and two away but with only four of those currently scheduled to take place before the cut-off. Those four could yield a maximum of 13 pints giving a potential total of just 49 points, so that King's Lynn away match must be scheduled before the cut-off for any lingering credibility in the top tier to be saved. As it stands Rye House could be denied a play-off place only by King's Lynn's failure to stage the match before the cut-off! All of these are big 'ifs' with Belle Vue away and Swindon home to come but even by the shabby standards of the top tier allowing Poole the chance of a win at Lynn but denying the Rockets the same chance would be disgusting.

Can you tell me when Scunthorpe moved to Australia? Why are the Scorpions allowed in British leagues?

Except for the paying customers and the promotions hosting matches against a Panthers side unnecessarily missing one of their star riders. Who cares about them, or principles eh? Just go for what's convenient then try brushing it under the carpet afterwards....

Shameful response to someone trying to help another. R&R has a record in the sport to be proud of and is a vital source of help and information in the International Section.

Try reading this. Google Translate will put it into English. Polish teams often change on the day. https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/702676/kolejne-dobre-wiesci-dla-kibicow-get-well-torun-terminski-dopial-swego-w-sprawie Clearly your knowledge of Polish speedway is as limited as your understanding of the British version.

So, Rye House have staged the grand total of four Rockets matches at home in three months and people are hoping for a postponement tonight? I don't think it's just the BSPA who have problems.......

I've taken the precaution of checking Sportowe Fakty again. The story is still there and I can't see a follow-up regarding the implications here. This could be a busy Saturday.

I have reported what is in turn reported by Polish speedway's most authoritative source of news. It is extremely unlikely to be inaccurate although we have to allow for Google's translation. I included a link to the story if you wish to check for yourself.

Looks like Torun have freed Jack Holder of his British Sunday commitments with Peterborough. Money talks. https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/702676/kolejne-dobre-wiesci-dla-kibicow-get-well-torun-terminski-dopial-swego-w-sprawie Google Translation: Get Well Toruń reported in social media that Jack Holder is flying to Poland. Talks on this matter lasted quite a long time, but the most optimistic scenario was fulfilled.On Wednesday, the odds of Jack Holder starting in the match against Vitcherif CrossFit Czestochowa were 50 in 50. The Toruns were doing everything they could to keep the Australian on Sunday. Riding old seniors was definitely a safer option for Jacek Frątczak . - The situation changed very quickly. Once it seemed that it was going to be okay, and in a moment there were problems again. However, we were very consistent and succeeded - the manager of Toruń tells us. Frątczak is very grateful to Przemysław Terminiński , who showed a great determination in Jack Holder's case. The effect is that Chris's younger brother will be able to perform not only on Sunday but also in other meetings, which the team will play until the end of PGE Ekstraligi . - He worked the whole team who did more than you could. The greatest merit, however, is the owner's side. It is Mr. Przemyslaw who has an interest, "stresses Fratczak. If Jack Holder scores another good performance on Sunday, then the operation for his appointment to the next game will not have to start again. The training staff has far more comfortable working experience. It is worth emphasizing that the Australian will have plenty of time to prepare for the meeting with the Fool. In Poland will appear on Friday and will be able to participate in the training, which was scheduled in the afternoon. One day later, he will have another chance to get acquainted with the specifics of Motoarena." No doubt his brother will now be giving him a good talk on the subject of loyalty.

Looks like you'll be without Jack Holder on Sundays from now on. https://sportowefakty.wp.pl/zuzel/702676/kolejne-dobre-wiesci-dla-kibicow-get-well-torun-terminski-dopial-swego-w-sprawie Google translation: "On Wednesday, the odds of Jack Holder starting in the match against Vitcherif CrossFit Czestochowa were 50 in 50. The Toruns were doing everything they could to keep the Australian on Sunday. Riding old seniors was definitely a safer option for Jacek Frątczak . - The situation changed very quickly. Once it seemed that it was going to be okay, and in a moment there were problems again. However, we were very consistent and succeeded - the manager of Toruń tells us. Frątczak is very grateful to Przemysław Terminiński , who showed a great determination in Jack Holder's case. The effect is that Chris's younger brother will be able to perform not only on Sunday but also in other meetings, which the team will play until the end of PGE Ekstraligi . - He worked the whole team who did more than you could. The greatest merit, however, is the owner's side. It is Mr. Przemyslaw who has an interest, "stresses Fratczak. If Jack Holder scores another good performance on Sunday, then the operation for his appointment to the next game will not have to start again. The training staff has far more comfortable working experience. It is worth emphasizing that the Australian will have plenty of time to prepare for the meeting with the Fool. In Poland will appear on Friday and will be able to participate in the training, which was scheduled in the afternoon. One day later, he will have another chance to get acquainted with the specifics of Motoarena." Looks like "Money talks, contracts walk"

Not a 'tiff' just sick of having my goodwill abused.

I'll be taking a break from this forum for significant personal reasons. You can only take certain people for so long, those who delight in confrontation and upsetting others. I hope you've enjoyed the help I've offered here and am sure you know where to look for yourselves in future.

There is one thing stating facts, and another having the tact and intelligence to know when to post such facts are grossly insensitive. You have demonstrated over many years both here and in previous discussion groups that you have neither. You have overstepped the line here and if this forum were properly run you would be out on your backside for that. I realise your twisted 'fun' here is in stating garbage just to provoke reactions to satisfy your obviously deeply unpleasant needs. In fact you didn't just cross that line, you jumped over with both feet. You asked once who I was. I can tell you, I'm someone who would never behave like you do for your own sad gratification. Yes this IS attacking the poster, not the post, and you damn well deserve it you sickening low-life. Piss off. I'll probably earn a ban for this. As ever, it's the ones who provoke who get away with it and those who react who get hurt. The sport and this forum really, really would be better without you. You are a cancer in speedway.

I posted the links to the articles in good faith, forgetting that it would just be abused by someone out to win arguments at all costs. Postings deleted - obviously a total waste of my time.

I understood it mainly involved knives in backs.

There'll always be some kind of speedway running, as the NL proves. As you know, it offers a safe, low-cost alternative to dealing with primadonna riders. It's the top level tracks I'd worry about, to be honest...

Sums up my life.

Apologies, a truly appalling error.

This week's 'shopping list' is an extensive one. If, IF various channels/You Tube providers upload as normal we should be set for up to nine meetings from this weekend: Sat 15th SEC Round 2, Gustrow Polish u-21, Rybnik Poznan v Lublin Sun 16th Bydgoszcz v Pila Gdansk v Lodz Krosno v Poznan Ostrow v Lublin Grudziadz v Gorzow Rybnik v Wroclaw The Lublin and Krosno fixtures depend on whether their local TV channels cover them, as they have done so far.

Just taken a look on Google Earth at the proposed site and what an outstanding location! For those unfamiliar with Oldbury it's right by junction 3 of the M5 motorway where it meets the main road between Birmingham and Wolverhampton, the A4123 Birmingham New Road. Once more, good luck. It'll be a good deal easier for visitors to find than Dudley Wood.

You therefore have to question whether they should be riding if they are so affected by imperfect tracks that others could handle.

Now who was it put "non TV" against the fixture? Forgot the word 'live' I'm surprised "Speedway For All" has lasted this long, but very grateful.

No, it appears to be a very odd situation. The deal with Sky appears to still be there, and they're paying what is due according to the contract but feel they cannot justify the additional cost of actually covering the meetings. Instead it seems a temporary deal has been made for a year for BT to cover the sport for free, with them taking on the costs of covering the events instead. So, it seems to be a very odd 'half and half' situation. Regarding last night, it's clear that we still have a dangerous situation where some riders are trying to control the sport. Despite the many failings of the BSPA this anarchy has to be ended and the riders concerned either shown who is in charge or are allowed to leave. I'm sure these antics would not be tolerated in Poland. The trouble is you then get naive fans whingeing about "watering down". We unfortunately, for now, have to lose those who are not committed to racing here or feel they can dictate what goes on. If it means a combined Championship/NL level league with weekly speedway, a full fixture list and stable teams of riders actually giving a damn about the sport and its customers then surely the most arrogant 'EL snob' will realise it has to be better than what happened last night. It has to be a case of "Do it our way or go".

Someone have a pint of Batham's for me....

I remember going to a meeting at Rayleigh on an off night (Monday rather than Saturday) for a challenge match against Canterbury. It didn't matter that it wasn't for league points, it was a chance to see an extra match against local rivals. Most importantly it was a bonus night's speedway! Now people would be far too busy coming up with reasons not to go, usually sneering at a 'meaningless' meeting. Progress?