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While I understand there will be a lobby for Woffinden I think it would be a travesty if he were picked ahead of Janusz. Look at the Polish and Swedish league stats: (from aktuellspeedway.se) Poland: Kolodziej 3rd on 9.09 (these are aves exc bonus, add in bonus and he overtakes Pedersen to finish second behind Gollob) Woffinden 43rd on 4.41 Sweden Kolodziej 3rd on 8.68 (second including bonus points) Woffinden 66th on 4.27 (below Ricky Kling, Kauko Nieminen, Kim Nilsson, Krzysztof Jablonski, Krzysztof Buczkowski and Tomasz Jedrzejak - maybe they should be in the GP?)

When Drammen staged their League match, Elgane refused to ride and did not turn up. Due to planning regs the new silencers are used at Drammen and Elgane wouldn't use them. So I guess the reason is the same this time

Yes I have(and I know Mr S Bear has on a number of issues too) and experience suggests that Ancient Mariner is right to be sceptical. There seems to sufficient evidence that there is a case to answer (as spelt out by Mr S Bear). It may not be in Newport's interest to look too closely at this but it is certainly in the interest of the rest of the sport and certainly in the interests of other young Australian riders. If the BSPA is shown not to police visa status effectively then a potential outcome is that the rules will be tightened by the UK Borders Agency and that future opportunities for us to see young Australians riding here will be reduced. However, if it does emerge that Mark Jones should not have ridden this season, I really think it is a bit late to start altering results of meetings that took place five months ago. (There are precedents, for example riders who are subsequently discovered to be under age haven't had their points removed from matches they rode in.)

And the 2010 result can now be added to the list 1 Rasmus Jensen 28 2 Kenni Nissen 25 3 Jesper Schaff 23 4 Andreas Lyager 21 (aged just 12!) 5 Anders Thomsen 20 6 Mark F Pedersen 18 Held over two meetings, the second being at Vejlby this`afternoon

80cc [1-2-3] 2005 Johannes Kikkenberg Tommy Pedersen Mikkel 'Liglad'* Jensen 2006 Simon Nielsen Rene Bach Nicklas Porsing 2007 Mickael Michelsen Mikkel B Jensen Tommy Jorgensen 2008 Mikkel B Jensen Mikkel Jepsen Jensen Mickael Michelsen 2009 Kenni Nissen Mikkel B Jensen Rasmus Jensen 50cc 2005 Simon Selch Jonas Davidsen Oliver Ellegaard 2006 Anders Lyager Daniel Kjaergaard Martin Hansen 2007 Daniel Kjaergaard Nicklas Clausen Soren Simonsen 2008 Frederik Jacobsen Sebastian Mortensen Maja Aamand 2009 Morten Piepenbrink Sebastian Mortensen Jacob Frahm Earlier winners of the 80cc title include: 2002 Patrick Hougaard 2000 Leon Madsen 1999 Kenneth Bjerre 1998 Mads Korneliussen 1997 Neils K Iversen 1996 Henning Bager 1995 Hans Andersen 1994 Charlie Gjedde 1993 Nicki Pedersen 1979 & 1980 Jan O Pedersen 1975 & 1976 Tommy Knudsen

I hope Richard Franklin is OK - apart from the need for the ambulance on three occasions this was a fabulous meeting (best I've been to this season - and it contained the best race I've seen this season, with not a Grand Prix star in sight) Best of all was the atmosphere - at so many meetings there is little but polite applause - last night it was great to watch people really enjoying their speedway. And it was great to see the Cradley fans passion rewarded with a last gasp victory. It was hard on Lynn with Lambert (or at least his bike) off colour and Lewis Kerr only able to manage two rides; but the combination of vintage Armstrong, impressive Bekker and some great team spirit saw the Heathens through. PS Before last night my best meeting of the season was Rye House v Dudley - seems to be a pattern developing, I must see more of the Heathens

That will come as news to Ronnie Moore

Exhausting - 8 reruns and 4 races awarded Rye 48 Hughes 14, Owen 11+1, Hart (G) 8+1, Morley 7+2. Hazelden 4+1, Strudwick 3+2, Stokes (no8) 1 Buxton 41 Allott 11, Branford 8+2, Morris 6+1, Andersen (G) 6, Widman 5, Garrity 4+1, Andrews 1 Should have been an easy win on paper for the Cobras, but never more than 3 points in it until Cobras got a 5-1 in ht 13. A drawn heat in the next one sealed the win for the Cobras and Hughes's win in the last heat (after Hart fell) gave them the third match point. Allott (ht 9), Hughes (ht 11) and Brandford (ht 12) all won races from the back. Hughes dropped a single point to Allott, Owen looked sharpe. Allott shone, while the three Aussies were all a bit unstable and inconsistent. Garrity had an eventful night including two falls, a tape and a two minute exclusion.

Yes it's an irritation,but a very minor one. After all don't most televised sports suffer similarly? For example we have continually had commentators and pundits asserting that England are a world class football team with a realistic chance of winning the world cup :wink:

Interesting to see some of the names from mini-zuzel coming through (following in Szymon Wozniak's tyretracks). Will there be a meeting for new licence holders like last year's Hopes of Polish speedway?

Result from Drammen: Drammen 34 (LD Gunnestad 15, Fuglerud 10, T Gunnestad 9) Riska 28 (Raugstad 12, Herold 8, Skjaeveland 8) Kristiansand 19 (Solberg 10, Hansen 9) Elgane 0 Elgane refused to compete as the Drammen track requires new regulation silencers to be used. Riska led after 9 heats, but Drammen finished strongly not dropping a point in the closing heats. Only 3 of the 15 heats had four riders, five races involved unopposed 5-nils against Elgane. The lowlight of the meeting was heat 9 when Espen Hansen rode unopposed against Elgane, fell off on the second bend, damaged his machine and limped home in a winning time of four minutes! edit PS The official result shows a couple of differences : Drammen 34, Riska 27, Kristiansand 17

Well I found Lunner. Result: Elgane 32 (M Bjerk 11, I Bjerk 11, R Eklof 10) Drammen 24 (LD Gunnestad 13, T Gunnestad 8, Fuglerud 3) Riska 20 (Raugstad 10, Herold 6, Sjeevland 4) Kristiansand 13 (Solberg 9, Fossberg 4) and a detailed map is now on the Drammen site (thanks) so I should catch today's round too.

1. Divisjon 15.05.10 - Runde 1, Elgane 16.05.10 - Runde 2, Riska 29.05.10 - Runde 3, Oslo 30.05.10 - Runde 4, Drammen 11.09.10 - Runde 5, Kristiansand 2. Divisjon 24.04.10 - Runde 1, Riska 22.05.10 - Runde 2, Drammen 23.05.10 - Runde 3, Kongsberg 05.06.10 - Runde 4, Mjosa 12.06.10 - Runde 5, Oslo I see Elgane won the first round on 15 May. see http://www.nmkdrammen.com/speedway-2010/Res%20liga%2015%2005%2010%20Elgane.pdf Now it so happens I'm in Oslo on 29th-30th May. Can anyone help me with any of the following: confirming the fixtures are on, the starting times and exact location of the stadiums. [Lanzilla are you out there?]

Irresistable

Southern TV (or possibly Channel 4) did one centering on Reading and Phil Morris about ten years ago

None - I have another engagement that clashes with the Cardiff GP and although I went to seven meetings abroad last year (on three different continents) Grand Prixs are not my preference. (I haven't been to one since Linkopping in 96)

It's here

Given that joint Slovenian/Croatian teams and numerous scratch teams have participated in World Cup events I see no reason why not being directly affiliated to the FIM should prevent Scotland from entering the World Cup

66 progs say red and yellow, so taken together with JoD's posting that seems to pin the change down to 1966

A quick look through my programme collection and reference to Philip Dalling's book establish that in 1963 the Archers came back with a green archer on a yellow background, but later this was changed to a red archer on yellow. So Nigel your 1965 ref is correct, and as Leicester closed after a series of open meetings in 1963 then Gemini's suggestion is highly plausible. So that would imply a change in 1964 from green to red.

Jim is still busily capturing more info - I have had several exchanges with him (principally heat details of Leicester meetings) and I'm sure it will appear eventually. One of the problems is that the more info you gather the more conflicting bits of info you have, and resolving those alternative pieces of evidence can be even more time consuming for the serious historian with a regard for accuracy.

Final Individual Championship of Russia Balakovo, September 8, 2009 1. (5) Renat Gafurov (Vladivostok) (3 3 2 3 3) 14 2. (15) Roman Povazhny (Balakovo) (3 3 1 3 3) 13 3. (2) Emil Saifutdinov (Balakovo) (r 3 3 3 3) 12 +3 4. (3) Alexey Kharchenko (Vladivostok) (3 2 3 1 3) 12 +2 5. (14) Denis Gizatullin (Balakovo) (2 2 2 3 2) 11 6. (16) Gregory Laguta (Vladivostok) (x 3 3 2 2) 10 7. (12) Semen Vlasov (Balakovo) (3 2 0 2 1) 8 8. (4) Alexander Loktaev (Balakovo) (2 1 3 1 1) 8 9. (13) Roman Kashirin (Salavat) (1 2 1 2 2) 8 10. (9) Daniil Ivanov (Togliatti) (1 1 1 2 1) 6 11. (11) Oleg Beschastnov (Togliatti) (2 0 2 f 0) 4 12. (8) Roman Ivanov (Togliatti) (2 0 0 1 1) 4 13. (7) Sergey Kuzin (Balakovo) (r 1 2 1 0) 4 14. (10) Sergei Karachintsev (Togliatti) (t 1 0 0 2) 3 15. (6) Ilya Bondarenko (Togliatti) (r 0 1 0 0) 1 16. (1) Alex Izotov (Balakovo) (1 0 0 0 0) 1 17. ® Alexander Marinyuk (Vladivostok) (0) 0 18. Denis Saifutdinov (Balakovo) - NS 2008 Russian Championship Final - Oktyabrsky, 16 August 1 Denis Gizatullin 33133 13 2 Victor Golubovsky 20110 4 3 Marat Gatiyatov 1130fx 5 4 Artem Vodyakov 021fx3 6 5 Sergey Darkin 32011 7 6 Renat Gafurov 21233 11 7 Denis Sajfutdinov 13222 10 8 Evgenie Gomozov 00M00 0 9 Alexey Kharchenko 10121 5 10 Emil Sajfutdinov 32322 12+3 11 Sergey Kuzin 0033x 6 12 Alexey Guzaev 212ff/- 5 13 Ilya Bondarenko 11022 6 14 Roman Povazhny 23012 8 15 Daniel Ivanov 02311 7 16 Grigory Laguta 33r33 12+2 17 Roman Ivanov 2 2 18 Roman Kantiukov 1 1 Russian Championship Vladivastock, August 5 1. Denis Gizatullin (Lukoil Oktiabrskij) (3,3,3,2,3) 14 2. Renat Gafurow (Wostok Władywostok) (3,3,2,3,2) 13+3 3. Sergiej Darkin (SK Turbina Bałakowo) (2,2,3,3,3) 13+2 4. Artiem Wodjakow (SK Turbina Bałakowo) (2,2,2,3,3) 12 5. Roman Povazhny (SK Turbina Bałakowo) (1,3,3,3,1) 11 6. Eduard Szajchulin (Wostok Władywostok) (r,3,1,2,2) 8 7. Danił Iwanow (Mega Łada Togliatti) (2,2,0,2,2) 8 8. Aleksandr Kosołapkin (SK Turbina Bałakowo) (3,0,3,1,fx) 7 9. Roman Iwanow (Mega Łada Togliatti) (1,1,2,0,3) 7 10. Maksim Kalimullin (SK Turbina Bałakowo) (1,2,1,2,1) 7 11. Wladimir Dubinin (Mega Łada Togliatti) (3,0,1,1,0) 5 12. Ilia Bondarenko (Mega Łada Togliatti) (0,1,2,1,1) 5 13. Sergiej Kuzin (SK Turbina Bałakowo) (1,1,0,0,2) 4 14. Rusłan Gatiatow (Lukoil Oktiabrskij) (2,1,0,0,fx) 3 15. Marat Gatiatow (Lukoil Oktiabrskij) (0,0,1,0,1) 2 16. Igor Kononow (Lukoil Oktiabrskij) (0,0,0,1,0) 1

Reading v Bristol 10/10/77 The missing point belongs to Tony Garrad who finished third in ht 2 ahead of Wilmott Reading v Belle Vue 25/9/77 The infamous Wassermann guest meeting.Hans had a meeting in Germany and Racers had Neil Middleditch as a guest. Hans missed his plane and was at Smallmead. BV objected to the use of a guest and while eveyone was arguing the rain arrived. Only one race was held. Jessup, Wilkinson, Humphreys*, C Turner 4-2 63.2 * reserve substitution for Middleditch who was not allowed to take the place of Wassermann Swindon v Reading 19/3/77 Abandoned after 4 heats: 1 Karlsson, Jessup, Ashby (M), Humphreys 4-2 72.4 2 Bouchard, Ashby(D), Bo Jansson, Taylor(G) (exc) 5-1 72.2 3 Andersson, McNeil, Bengt Jansson, Leigh 5-1 73.2 4 Kilby, Davis, Bouchard, Taylor 4-2 72.8 The Poole match was abandoned after 5 heats due to the death of Kevin Holden - but I don't have details to hand.

Whatever happened to Boras in Sweden? - I only know it as the venue for early World Pairs Finals

Maybe one or more of us should write to Backtrack sumarising the deliberations on this thread