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Unlike the European Senior Ice Championship, held at the same time as the World Team Championship with the result that there were (I think) only two non-Russians competing

Held in Togliatti today to almost universal indifference west of Poland. Still it is marginally more interesting than the European Best Pairs and the European Junior Ice Championship Result from Sportowefakty.pl 1. Renat Gafurov (Rosja) (1,3,3,3,3) 13+3 2. Andriej Karpov (Ukraina) (3,3,3,2,2) 13+2 3. Ales Dryml (Czechy) (2,3,2,3,3) 13+1 4. Ronnie Jamroży (Polska) (3,2,3,3,1) 12 5. Josef Franc (Czechy) (2,2,3,2,2) 11 6. Denis Gizatullin (Rosja) (3,1,1,1,3) 9 7. Matej Kus (Czechy) (1,0,2,2,3) 8 8. Siemen Własow (Rosja) (2,1,0,3,2) 8 9. Danił Iwanow (Rosja) (0,3,1,2,w) 6 10. Siergiej Darkin (Rosja) (3,2,w,d,1) 6 11. Jewgienij Karawackis (Łotwa) (2,0,0,0,2) 4 12. Maks Gregoric (Słowenia) (0,1,2,1,w) 4 13. Mads Korneliussen (Dania) (d,2,0,1,1) 4 14. Jozsef Tabaka (Węgry) (1,w,2,1,0) 4 15. Władimir Dubinin (Rosja) (0,1,1,0,1) 3 16. Martin Malek (Czechy) (1,0,1,0,0) 2

I'd ask about his early days at California. How did he find the unusual sand surface and the unusual setting?

Before anyone gets too confused that translates into English as 11-10-09

I rather like the sound of the Hard brothers of Swedish Division One team Eldarna. And on a slightly different tack how about pairing American Brad Sauer with former Eastbourne rider Gary Sweet

I started by seeking advice from someone who knew his way round the publishing business (Jeff Scott) and occasionally ran queries past others with experience (such as Norbs). As a result I concentrated on using photos where I could obtain copyright permission, all of which are attributed in the book. The real bonus was obtaining access to the Reading Evening Post archive. If you haven't already I'd contact the Swindon Advertiser. It is probably worth soliciting old photos from Swindon fans. Ultimately I think it is sufficient to show that you made the effort to identify the copyright holder and seek permission, with a disclaimer along the lines suggested by speedyguy. Remember that ultimately if you do use a photo without permission you are depriving the copyright holder of income from the exploitation of that copyright. However the sums are involved must be trivial (I paid for a handful of the photos I used, maximum for a photo - £20) so worst case (as Norbs alludes to) is an apology and a token payment. On programme covers (and content) I approached both Reg Fearman and Pat Bliss, who had no objections. Although in both cases we weren't really sure who now owned the copyright on old Reading programmes it seems reasonable to assume that the copyright holder could not be traced. (It should be the promoting company for stuff done in house - but most of these have long been wound up; For stuff outsourced who is going to be able to track down a graphic designer from 40 years ago?) Scanning a page of text would almost always break the copyright rule about the amount of text you can quote, so permission is needed if for example you scan a full page article from a programme. The longest quote I used was about 100 words from a local history book (I got permission from the author's widow) and I also got a blanket permission from the Speedway Star because of the number of quotes I used and also for their stats.

I'm just wondering who holds the Daugavpils track record

He started well with a brilliant win from the back in his opening ride. But he had gate 4 in his third and fourth ride. [gate 4 produced no wins and just two 2nds in the first 15 races] In his later races he was competetive, racing hard but not finding a way thru, eventually tailing off on the last couple of laps. It was sufficiently tight that a win in his last heat would still have put him into the semi. As for THJ - rubbish - he ONLY won three races from the back (over Ludvig Lindgren, David Ruud and Henka Gustafsson). In the final PK passed him for third on the second lap, but he wouldn't be defeated and tigered (or shold that be Monarched) away until he repassed PK on the last lap.

Well he was very impressive tonight and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend him. [nb My 2006 recomendation from visiting Sweden was THJ, and last year's was Linus Sundstrom] He went from 3rd to 1st in his third ride, pressed THJ hard in his fourth, beat Eklof from the back in heat 17 and rode wheel to wheel with THJ in the first two laps of the final. Forsberg and Lindgren (even with home track advantage) were very disappointing. Strong bias towards inside gates. Only Simon Gustafsson won from gate 4. Decision to exclude him in final was a reasonable call(he steamed under Sundstrom on the second lap causing Linus to hit the air fence hard). I estimated crowd at 1200 - 1156 not bad! PS I doubt if Linus Eklof is happy with 5th. He gated in heat 17 and had he held that would have been straight into the final - however Forsberg and Andersson went either side of him on the fourth bend and Sundstrom passed him on the final lap.

No contest it has to be the 1972 league match between the Budgies and the Racers - the first of many Racers away wins that I've witnessed). Anders Michanek came out and broke the tapes in heat 1 and was replaced by reserve Richard May. Not a good start, but then May beat Barry Briggs. By heat 8 Swindon needed to introduce a tac sub - Barry Briggs. And Richard May beat him from the back! Needless to say the Racers won :D

Looks like its going to be damp. http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/europe...locationID=3384 Hopefully just showers

I have them and can sort it out

Seconded Everyone of the four World Cup rounds was truly compelling, drama filled and full of exciting races. The best week of speedway since 1973 (remember the Daily Mirror International Tournament). Yet still the majority of active threads are largely moans about trivial things. Bee's original posting is making a general point yet some of the responses are remarkably rude particularly Midland Robin

I rather like Charlie OMG am I turning straight :shock: You sad little man

So where is this going to leave today's Polish League programme?

And of course nobody British would ever say anything nasty about our top rider if his form dropped off

Any siteseeing suggestions for the Mallila area?

1 Tomasz Chrazanowski (Pol) 2 Janiel Jeleniewski (Pol) 3 Danil Ivanov (Rus) 4 Pawel Miesiac (Pol) 5 Semen Vlasov (Rus) 6 Andrei Karpov 7 Ilya Bondarenko (Rus) 8 Adam Skupien (Pol) 9 Andrei Korolov (Lat) 10 Kjastus Puodzuks (Lat) 11 Roman Ivanov (Rus) 12 Ruslan Gatyatov (Rus) 13 Mariuz Frankow (Pol) 14 Aleksander Borodai 15 Jacek Rembas (Pol) 16 Zbigniew Suchecki (Pol) 17 Vladimir Dubinin 18 Vladimir Kolody 19 Vyaseshlav Gieruski (Lat) 20 Aleksander Loktaev 21 Jaroslav Polouhouvich 22 Igor Kononov (Rus) 23 Cyril Tsuckanov 24 Stanislav Ogorodnik 25 Andrei Korbin 26 Michalo Oneshko 27 Vladimir Trofimov 28 Vladimir Teigel 29 Yuri Petrov 30 Vladimir Omerlin 31 Igor Borisenko 32 Sergei Borisenko some spellings are approximate

Denmark didn't need to drop Bjarne, and if they had chosen their strongest team wouldn't Mads Korneliussen have been chosen ahead of Klindt and Hougaard? The fact that these two scored 12 as opposed to King and Bridger's 1 gives an indication of the challenge ahead. But did Danny and Lewis go to Poland with the intention of gaining as many last places as possible? NO. Did they try their hardest? I'm sure they did. What more could you ask from them? It seems everyone on here wants either to say "what a wonderful effort" or "dreadful and its all the fault of X" I think the truth lies somewhere inbetween. I can't say I was thrilled at Rob Lyon's appointment and wouldn't have made all the same choices that he has, but I think he's made a pretty good start. He seems to have a strategy and appears to have made some progress in turning Team GB into a team. On the basis of this year's performance I'm quite happy to give him some more time to develop Team GB. Verdict: an encoraging start and a qualified success, and Rob deserves our support. Overall the World Cup has been fantastic (and not for the first time). We've had the Russians demolishing the Danes, some of the finest racing of the decade at Peterborough in a meeting where Australia and Poland were neck and neck and the drama of GB's strong performance at Leszno and Sweden's late run to pip them at the end. Once again the World Cup (in three meetings) has provided more excitment, entertainment and drama than an entire season of Grand Prixs. It's been a brilliant week for speedway - but as usual the forum is full moaners

Surely the test series that would pull in the crowds and get Sky coverage would be GB v Russia ...if only

Wow! Wow! Wow! That was a meeting and half. Brilliant racing. I thought King v Gollob would be the race of the season, but then came Crump and Zagar (not forgettting Miedzinski). Add a very tight contest between the Poles and the Aussies and a big crowd with a great atmosphere and it was an unforgettable night. Top marks to King, Zagar and Miedzinski in particular. Three of the best meetings I've ever seen are World Cup meetings (the race-offs at Wroclaw and Poole are the other two), but it is still only the second best meeting I've seen at Peterborough (Panthers v Long Eaton in 1994) My only complaint. Yet again they sold out of progs well before the start - If anyone has a programme that they no longer require and would be willing to pass it on (in return for a suitable payment) I'd be very grateful

Who is the top Brit in Elite League averages? Lee Richardson (Kennett is next) Who is the top Brit in the Swedish Elitiserien? Lee Richardson (Nicholls is next) Who is the top Brit in the Polish Extraliga? Lee Richardson (Woffinden is next) He may not be in the World's top ten, but he is the best we've got

What a fantastic meeting. Brilliant result for the Russians, and a superb show from Bjerre. I'd say the Laguta/Pedersen decision was right, but it was a marginal one. With international speedway dominated by a few nations predictability is one of the sport's greatest enemies. I've been expecting the Russians to do this, but not for another 3 or 4 years when Artem Laguta and Vodyakov are ready to compete at the top level. This result really gives the World Cup a shot in the arm. The only downside is the dreary abuse that seems to dominate this thread. Dooraki

Attendances seem to be holding up well - isn't the credit crunch being felt in Sweden? (If not, why not?) have Swedish clubs done anything specific to maintain attendances? Stats: (average Elitserien attendance) 2007: 2742 2008: 2738 2009 (to date): 2731

And who will they ride against? Mars's finest?