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honourable mention to Rob Shuttleworth five falls in his first five rides, then a last, and then he won heat 14 to set up the last heat decider

Fantastic meeting (plussed it and just got round to watching it) For comparison went to a Danish Super Liga match earlier this month 100dk (~£11) Big difference in cost structure for Sweden (&prob Denmark too) is the lack of astronomical stadium rental costs

Wouldn't a significant number of the riders concerned just take out Polish licences?

The British Youth Championship meeting had an exceptionally high turnout for competition at this level

Absolutely. Do you remember the Mike Keen testimonial? Sheeting down and Dag won every race by a straight.

I'm struggling to think of any other 17 year olds who have finished on the podium in a Grand Prix He finished above Andreas Jonsson, Przem Pawlicki, Troy Batchelor, Matej Zagar and Martin Vaculik in last year's Swedish Elitserien averages. So the hype is justified, but that should be tempered by experience which shows young foreigners don't always adapt to British speedway overnight. I hope he does well, Birmingham badly need something to make their season interesting

A broad summary (with the caveat that I have not gone back and reread every document from this or the original submission) This is a retrospective application - i.e. it is seeking consent for something that has already been done. In this case it looks like it is seeking consent to deviations from the original planning consent of 2009. So in 2009 the application had a long list of conditions - and obviously some of these have not been complied with (any visitor to the site can spot some of these shortcomings). The current application appears in most cases to be seeking the council's permission to ignore those original conditions that have not been complied with and carry on regardless. The decision notice has approved this subject to conditions, but most of these conditions are negations of the request to have the conditions lifted. Of these the BMX/cycle 5-a-side facilities look like the most significant. So the chronology runs: 2009 LCC grants permission subject to DH doing X 2011 DH develops site without doing X 2013 LCC says you still need to do X unless you put in a planning application which we approve that says you don't need to 2013 Application seeking to have various conditions lifted submitted 2014 LCC determine application saying you must still do all of these things - and these are updated conditions that apply to them Some (like signage and marking out car park don't seem to be too onerous), and the usage conditions look very generous, but ALL has highlighted the central problem. No doubt DH can come up with a programme for installing the other facilities but the council will expect it to have realistic deadlines for development of the new facilities and I foresee further problems when (as I suspect is likely to be the case) they are not delivered. PS Interesting to see Mike Richardson is now head of planning; he was a planner (and constituent of mine) 25 years ago when I first became a councillor (and member of the planning ctte) in Leicester!

It was filmed (by that nice man from CleanCut) including all the overtakes (yes plural). An excellent meeting. Lewis looked the best rider in his class (unbeaten in his heats) but one of the Woodhull's got the better of him in the final. good crowd for a meeting at this level, who really got behind the Thompson twins. Joe led the 125cc final until the final bend when the persistence of a wee lad called Jolyon West paid off.

Could do worse - a good gater, and he looked very sharpe when I saw him at Munkebo a couple of weeks ago (outscoring Hans Andersen)

Me too.... But at least I got to see a decent live meeting beforehand - British Youth Champs at Leicester was an excellent meeting

Plenty of examples of foreign teams riding in other leagues: Daugavpils(Latvia), Miskolc(Hungary), Rovno(Ukraine) have all ridden in Polish leagues Ukrainian teams have competed in Russian league Last year an Estonian team participated in the second league in Finland Zarnovicia(Slovakia) have competed in Czech team competitions Finnish teams have competed in lower leagues of Sweden Think there used to be a Dutch team in the German leagues, and Helzod of Belgium are competing in the new Dutch League. I assume the main impact would be separate FIM membership with Team GB becoming England once more

1976 Cradley 40 (John Boulger 21) Reading 38 (Proch 9) The Heathens used r/r for Bernie Persson and under the 1976 rules their was the opportunity for riders to have multiple r/r rides

I can recall one similar example (this may well be the one in the back of Screamer's mind): 2008 King's Lynn at Reading - Kozza Smith was prevented by taking his seventh ride by the paramedic after he had fallen SIX times in his previous six rides. To be honest I can see both sides on this, having seen many riders win races when common sense suggests they should not have come to the tapes. However the rule is that it is the Medical Officer's call. I can see no suggestion that last night's incident was anything other than an application of the rules in the rulebook. That being the case the question is should the rule remain in the rulebook in it's current form? What I do not see is any basis for Lakeside's appeal.

Yes - the restraint of trade case law goes back to before 1900* - and of course during 1964 Wimbledon promoter (and SCB member) Ronnie Greene took out an injunction to stop Bob Andrews riding for PL Wolverhampton. However the application of commercial/contract law principles to sport has evolved considerably since then and for that reason I think that drawing on 1964 would be of very limited relevance. * just looked at Wikipedia and case law goes back to 1613!!!!!!!!!!

The PL ran black in 1964 - but everyone involved was banned. as a result riders could not compete at ACU grasstrack events (this was why Malcolm simmons elected to go 'white' with National League West Ham instead of continuing with PL Hackney), or compete in the world championship. Australians riding in the PL were banned from riding in their native country by their national federation as a further consequence. Belle Vue were threatened with immediate expulsion from the National League for staging the Provincial League Riders Championship - however by that stage the national League/SCB position was so weak they couldn't follow through with their threat. The bans were lifted as part of the settlement during the 64/65 close season, which was largely on the Provincial League's terms. Whether this has any relevance today is questionable.

These figures are don't look right, but the conclusion certainly is! The 1987 average wage was £8,140 ( £17,857 in 2010 prices). The current figure is around £24,000. That's a factor of three increase which would make the equivalent admission fee £9 (the data goes up to 2010, so that would probably be £10 by 2013). So admission prices have gone up way faster than average earnings If they had gone up in line with inflation the admission price would be just : £ 7.50 Source: http://www.measuringworth.com/ukearncpi/

From 'Tears and Glory' 1976 chapter: Bernie Leigh also upped his average by over a point, overtaking Bengt Jansson for the third heat leader spot. His best score of the season came when guesting for Hackney at Hull – 15+1. Sadly he got a duck when he returned to Hull in Racers colours. He did score 12+3 for Racers at Newport – from eight rides. Speedway is littered with bizarre rules, and 1976's rider replacement rule comes into that category. When operating rider replacement the rider immediately above in the averages could take one ride, and any rider with an average below the others. This meant Leigh could have three of Jansson's rider replacement rides, as well as a tactical substitution. He rode in heats: 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10 and 12.

I'm a bit confused after looking at the final standings here: http://www.knmv.nl/uploads/archive/2012/KNMV_Speedway_ONK_Totaalstand_2012-10-07.pdf The official results show Robert-jan Bangma competing in the first round and scoring 39 points - these seem to have disappeared and all riders in the B group promoted one place Secondly why are Erwin Werkman's 34 (or should that be 33?) points excluded - shouldn't that only happen to riders competing in all three rounds?

rider to watch - must be Adam Ellis

Abolition of Entertainment tax in the 1957 budget made the economics of running speedway more favourable. Prospective promoters (eg Reg Duval at Liverpool in 1958) found that the established promoters (who had kept the sport going through the lean years) were reluctant to allow new promoters to join organised speedway and benefit from the abolition of entertainment tax. This resulted in pirate meetings at Liverpool, Bradford and Cradley in 1959. The first two were promoted by Mike Parker a Manchester based midget car driver. All three tracks had mixed programmes of bikes and midgets. MP was the driving force behind the formation of the PL. He got together a group of prospective promoters from various sources the northern pirate tracks the amateur tracks involved in the 1959 Southern Area League (in the end only Yarmouth competed in the first PL) tracks that had failed to survive financially in the NL (Rayleigh and Poole) revival of long closed tracks (eg Ian Hoskins at Edinburgh, Charlie Knott at Bristol) Having demonstrated that he wasn't someone to be messed with, Parker opened negotiations with the Speedway Control Board with a view to running the new league under the control of the SCB. Although not without the odd hitch the PL plan came to fruition. There are some interesting articles on www.speedwayplus.com about this episode in spedway's history.

I too was on the site yesterday morning, looking at the ice speedway results from 2012. They too now appear to be hiding. Can you link me to them?

Is there a Kaupunki Cup result missing? All the sites with info on the Kaup Cup, including this thread, seem to have details of 7 meetings, but the final league table implies that there were 8 meetings. The fixture list at the start of the thread suggests that there should have been a meeting in mid August?

All the PL trophies went to different teams - a very unusual event with so many trophies on offer League - Scunthorpe Cup - Newcastle League Cup - Somerset Fours - Berwick Pairs - Workington Individual - Craig Cook of Edinburgh

Not strictly 2013 I know but I was looking at past results from Sweden and I couldn't find 2011 results current results are on: http://www.svemo.se/sv/Grenar/Speedway/ and it links to http://speedwayhistorik.svemo.se/ for archives covering 2002-2010. Are the 2011 results hidden somewhere on the SVEMO site? (Note not all the info particularly the 80cc results are on aktuellspeedway)