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Sadly recent evidence would suggest that riders can do just that. there is little point in banning such riders if it simply results in them deciding not to ride in Britain. Any solution to this problem has to recognise the reality. PMP:- " ...the situation could become farcical." could become... could become.... Bit late for that - there have been 32 Elite League fixtures in the last four weeks. Every single one of them has featured at least one guest

Round winner 18 runner-up 16 third 14 fourth 12 fifth onwards; 11-10-9 etc Lowest scoring round dropped from overall total

They had permission from the council - last night's curfew was 9.30, but the meeting was over by 8.45. I imagine that the council noise team were out taking measurements, and that there will be an addendum to Thursday's report with any observations from last night. Bet some resi will complain about the dreadful racket at 9.15 on Monday evening

Ah but just supposing Scotland becomes a pariah state under Kim Il Salmond

I went to a tenth wedding anniversary bash at Kirky Lane (during a greyhound meeting) ....they separated shortly after!

A couple of good races (heats 4 & 9), but far too much of a difference in abilities/experience. Greenwood gated in the crucial heat 4 and was steady under pressure. Jack Kingston was fast and stayed on - a very encouraging performance. Nathan Greaves great effort. Ellis Perks (son of former ref Robbie I believe) looked good and is adapting to British tracks When all four riders ended up in a heap in heat 2 and the first four heats took 30 minutes I wondered if the extra hour would be sufficient - but it was all over by 8.45 (so heats 5-20 took just 75 minutes) When this event was first held (as an under 18 championship) 14 of the 16 participants were NL heat leader standard or better. Last night just Greenwood, Bates & Greaves fitted that description.

Application for a later end time goes to planning ctee of Swale Council on Thursday. report here: http://services.swale.gov.uk/meetings/documents/g1295/Public%20reports%20pack%2018th-Sep-2014%2019.00%20Planning%20Committee.pdf?T=10 Have to say I wouldn't be optimistic, tone of the report is very negative.

He didn't quit. His contract came to an end. I believe he even rode an additional match after the contractually agreed end date.

No - Denmark is over, but... The second semi-final in the Swedish play-offs could take out Schlein and Bjerre if Lynn were to ride on wednesday.

so you are saying Poole should be allowed to build to a higher points limit than Swindon :o

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to write a press release bigging up the second leg!

It doesn't matter in the slightest what it is called (how about the Peter Craven stadium - a BRITISH world champion and a Belle Vue icon) What matters is that it gets built. Given the financials I have seen that can't be taken for granted. There is a difference between being sceptical and not wanting the stadium to be built - could we try and be a bit more positive instead of abusing those who remain to be convinced that the project will come to fruition.

So we are agreed he must have been born on or after 1 January 1993

Most websites give his date of birth as 5 June 1992. But he competed in both World and European under 21 championships this year. So what is his correct date of birth?

I think edmon is right about it being against the rules, but cyclone is right about there being precedents, and common sense suggests that it would be better to have results in both meetings. I seem to recall this being done at Oxford in the days of conference league double headers. best wishes to Millsy for a speedy recovery

Jack Kingston?Aaron Mogridge?

Attractive opposition, good weather, no football ....and yet the 'crowd' is pitiful. The air of decay hangs heavy @ Hoddesdon

It was closed about 20 years ago after one promoter whined particularly loudly about it. And as predicted the consequences of having three races with just three riders resulted in the BSPA changing the rule back again a year or two later.

With regards Jessup, I never really saw him as World Champion material, but maybe that was because he rode for Reading. Touche, Graham

Last time I was there they had a young Johnny Cash wanna be. Thought he was pleasant to listen to. The danger (and I have witnessed this elsewhere) is you get the promoter's niece doing cat screaching karaoke.

This is a minefield and should be left well alone. For example if a rider has been found to have taken performance debilitating drugs (e.g. Alchohol) should we add points to his team? If a rider has been taking a substance for a prolonged time should we rerun the previous season? What if removing rider A's points changes the average of another rider such that a subsequent team change becomes illegal? Precedent is strongly against doing this - e.g. Ed Kennett's points were not deducted from Coventry results earlier in the season.

My favourite quote: Belle Vue Aces who compete at a national level and will act as a catalyst for the success of the other sporting facilities created. Don't think they can have seen Belle Vue or the British 'Elite' League recently. Looks good to me, the objections are predictable, but small in number. From my experience (I've sat on planning cttes on and off for 25 years, two of which have dealt with major stadium applications.) Tactically the best thing to do is understand that the objectors concerns are reasonable and explain that that is why the report goes into great detail over noise mitigation and traffic management measures, and that appropriate conditions are attached to protect their interests. I'm sure spectators will be delighted to see that a 'dust minimisation plan' is required - what about rain minimisation?

Lawyers... Nuff said

Although the weather this season has been pretty average. The winter rain clearly did some damage to tracks at the start of the season, but the stats for the last 6 months show rainfall at just above the long term average. So how much more of a mess will there be if we have a wet summer!

No thread for KL v Cradley yet either... just saying...