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Rather pathetic all these allegations about cheating with no evidence. Lakeside chose their guests well but unless someone can provide a relevant precedent I will not be throwing lazy allegations of cheating at Lakeside.

I'm sure I've seen matches where changes like this have been allowed. But can anyone come up with a precedent where a team was not allowed to change their line up after a late injury/withdrawal?

I think you mean campest

On threads over previous controversial rain-offs the widely held view of most posters is that the match should be called off when the track is unfit to ride - not after heat 10 when it is convenient for the winning team and/or promoter. That appears to be what happened here, and yet there is endless whinging. I know Dave Robinson is not everybody's favourite referee, but all he has done here is what the referee is supposed to do: make a decision about whether it is safe to continue the meeting.

Ippo fans should stop whining about Tungate - he got what he deserved - however the decision not to allow Greenwood to ride STINKS

1) I'm citing a precedent 2) my opinion is based on over 30 years of involvement in various quasi-judicial processes If the SCB are going to take further action then the parties concerned have a right to a fair hearing. Incidents often look different if taken from different angles, and selectively edited clips can be misleading.

Cleancut recorded the Greaves/Sarjeant incident last year and ended up passing it on to SCB. I would advise not posting it - you can always post it later, but you can never unpost it once posted.

At least you got one. When I arrived (after a long slow journey) they'd sold out. If anyone can help me get hold of a copy I'd be very grateful.

Not just the three pointers!

Some do - at least one contributor to this thread has three league titles to his name as team manager

That Jan Anderson rubbish, hope he never rides for Reading Proch up next, go on Boley

Ooh it's just like live updates. Great win from Bernie there - c'mon you Racers

Agreed If Somerset are so keen on retrospective appeals then I trust they will accept it when their rivals appeal over the incorrect average awarded to Brady Kurtz last year and his score is removed from all 2014 matches! In this case there were mistakes by all parties, and the key word is mistake.

No sunbreak and we are still going at 10pm!!! S there an MDL match to follow?

How about 16.4.1: "The Home Team must notify their Opponents of the Team Line-Up at least 5 days before the Meeting to which the Away Team must respond within 24 hours with their Team Line-Up. All notifications must be in writing, include the MA’s and... not to mention 14.9.1 (Duties of the referee): Duties prior to, and/or Pre-Meeting are to check: * the Programme, ... The first was clearly broken by the home team as the MAs were not correct, and the second by the referee as he didn't spot the mistake

They should do. I'm pretty sure that Tim Sugar knew the correct gsa of every opponent in every match for which he was team manager. It now seems both teams are arguing that they should get the benefit of the doubt because of their incompetence. At least nobody has argued any mitigation for Mr. Dowling. I say replay (should get a better crowd than a Tyne/Tees challenge) It is also an interesting case study in the role of the internet as the comments on the live updates and the ability of ordinary fans at the track to look up the green sheets on their smart phones has meant that this surfaced before the completion of the match.

We were up there recently, and my other half (who has no interest in speedway) was very complimentary about the homemade pie.

Yes I noticed that too. Still no answer as to who the ref was, because they are clearly at fault whatever the other arguments.

Touche!

Unusual factoid: Only three different race winners all night

From what I've seen of Danish junior speedway (and that includes some of these riders) I'd say you don't need to wait, and that you're suspicions are right. Bukhave is probably the best of them at present. And there are two sons of 80s stars in the line-up too: Jorgensen and Karger. I think Kent need to bring in BWD for Adam Sheppard to make a match of it.

Surely you need a 50% increase, which makes your point about elasticity of demand even more compelling.

Whatever changes they make Swindon will still have the weakest reserve pairing and under the current formula that is a big handicap.

No it isn't. If the Yanks took spree killings seriously they'd be doing something about gun control. The flag business is just displacement activity. If US sports teams like the Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians change their nicknames then, and only then, would I start to believe it might be time to think about rebranding the Rebels

Wrongly. he was found NOT guilty. Source: Speedway Star 30 June 1984 report of appeal hearing