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Doesn't feel like a race - more like a stroll. Hard to see any change in the top four (particularly if Swindon are without Doyle for a number of matches) unless something goes badly wrong for King's Lynn.

Oh I don't know: * the holes in the car park have got bigger * the temporary stands have moved * the bar got demolished * the referee's box has moved and is no longer in line with the start * there are some new temporary toilets * the holes in the car park have got even bigger still

I can only echo the last three comments - a superb meeting.

Both qualified, Lambert on 12 and Bewley on 11.

Think this is the relevant rule: 3.9 Procedure and Time Limits for Protests to the BSPA MC, limited to Team Notifications Art. 16.4.4. a) A Protest must be in writing, relate to a single issue only, be accompanied by the correct fee and signed by the person directly affected. b] A Protest against the legality of a Team Line-Up within the following timescale: i) For Team Line-Ups notified / changed at any time up to 28 hours before the Meeting Start Time, a Protest must be lodged at least 24 hours prior to the Meeting start Time. ii) For Team Line-Ups notified less than 28 hours before the Meeting Start Time, a Protest must be lodged within 4 hours of the notification being made, and in all cases, no later than 2 hours prior to the Meeting start Time And: 3.8.1 No Protest can be lodged against a Statement of Fact; these are specifically: a) A Referee’s ruling on a heat result (Art 15.10) b] A Referee’s ruling on a Technical matter (Article 10). c) A BSPA ruling on a rider’s (re) Grading/Assessed MA (Art 16.2.2) d) A BSPA / BSPA MC Member’s ruling on a Team Line-Up, prior to the start of a Meeting e) A Referee’s ruling on a Team Line-Up, prior to the start of a Meeting, if not ruled at Art 3.8.1 (d) So the protest must have been made before the meeting. It must therefore have been ruled on by MC/referee Once ruled on it was a non-appealable 'statement of fact' Looks like Panthers will struggle with this one to me. BTW what is the basis of the protest re Shanes eligibility?

It is not over sensitive. I am simply pointing out that it is unacceptable language. Unless we are talking about:- http://mrbrains.co.uk/products/

Cheap homophobic abuse is hardly a persuasive way to further an argument. If you can't contribute anything better than that to the debate I suggest that you find a stone to crawl back under.

According to: the BSPA site [@ http://www.speedwaygb.co/news.php?extend.32440 ] "And with Erik Riss and Josh Bates on World Under-21 Team Cup duty, the hosts are also without Jason Garrity and Danny Ayres due to injuries." and the Leicester site [ @ http://www.leicesterlions.co/news.php?extend.30995.1 ] "This time, both teams will be without two regular faces with all four absences caused by the Under-21 Team Championship. Wolverhampton’s Kyle Howarth is eligible to take the place of Erik Riss at number four by virtue of the five per cent supplement for home guest bookings. Mark Riss replaces Josh Bates. For Poole, in-form Brady Kurtz is replaced by a third Wolves rider Rory Schlein while rider replacement operates for Jack Holder." This puzzles me because: 1) Erik Riss was not named in the German team 2) He did not ride in the meeting 3) He isn't even eligible - he is too OLD Which begs the question on what basis was a facility used for Riss?

It is now back up @ http://www.readingspeedway.com/

The press release cancelling Rye v Cov says Thur. Now all we need is the new GSAs and the rules for assessing riders without a 2017 average.

Terrible to hear of Luke's injuries, may I wish him a speedy recovery.

All the results are on sgb website

We bow to your superior knowledge. ROFL

I'm told they'll be out by Monday. But I am still not clear how averages will be worked out for those that have not ridden 4 home/4 away

Oh autocorrect! A nice shade of lilac with some plum coloured cushions perhaps? And obviously I agree with your/SCBs analysis on the averages. What's really shocking is we are less than 7 weeks away from the LAST date for changes and we still don't know what averages to apply to these riders

Plenty. Apparently he turned up but there was a difference of views with the IoW promotion, the upshot of which was that he did not ride.

That's Ben Re-run to you!

It should be remembered that in it's founding season (as BL3) the league included riders such as Kevin Teager, Glyn Taylor and Gary O'Hare. The mix of youngsters, veterans and riders with modest ability (who are vital to the functioning of the league) is much as it always was. What has changed is the number of ex-EL promotions that are now operating at this level. They have different cost bases and different operating philosophies. Not to say they are wrong, but they need to be understood and accommodated without jeopardizing the viability of the likes of Buxton and Mildenhall.

After last year's 14 heat fiasco this always had the capacity to be a bad tempered affair. Yet despite all that happened the Kent crowd still managed to give warm applause to Bacon and Davey. I wouldn't disagree with any of the unsatisfactory starts - in each case the rider penalised was clearly moving. (So was Bacon in heat 15, but as it was 8.29 there was no time for a re-run). The trainee referee coped well with a tricky meeting, perhaps Stoneman was lucky to survive in heat 12 (- but all 4 was still a tenable decision). I thought crowd should have been higher. Good to see Anders Rowe looking very solid. And can I add that teaboy's updates were excellent - completely impartial when there were plenty of points at which a more partizan texter could have been tempted to tell a different story.

He did indeed - good job I listed a couple of 'spares'

Poland 1 Zmarzlik ## 2 G Laguta 3 Kolodziej 4 Kasprzak ## as a Polish under 21 reserve Sweden 1 Zmarzlik 2 Dudek 3 N Pedersen 4 Przem Pawlicki Great Britain 1 Jonsson 2 Kasprzak 3 F Lindgren Denmark 1 N Pedersen 2 H Andersen Or using Dolgin's rankings: 1 Zmarzlik 2 Dudek 3 G Laguta 4 Sayfutdinov 5 Milik 6 Vaculik 7 Kasprzak

And who was the guy who couldn't find Peter Ravn's name in the programme?

Italy are the reigning champions - that should be a clue!

Smallmead - Joy and Edna sitting in the supporters Club kiosk on the third fourth bend. Racers' very own version of 'Waldorf and Statler'. Edna went on to work in the speedway office for many years (Tony - you have her picture here: http://www.retro-speedway.com/extras/autogallery/autogallery.php?show=1.British%20Club%20Teams%20and%20Riders%2FReading%2FGLANZ%2C_Peter%2C_BLISS%2C_Pat_%26_CHANDLER%2C_Edna_84-1.jpg&start=80 ) I believe Joy's ashes were scattered on the first/second bends at Smallmead - the second meeting at Smallmead when there was a PA announcement asking the driver of the 'speedway special' to return to the car park because his bus was sinking (built on a rubbish tip subsidence was a significant risk at Smallmead) - the Reading Evening Post 'speedway specials (basically a 4 page wrap around of the normal 'Post') - the huge queues back to the M4 for the opening meeting - the never completed back straight bar, which sat on the back straight (at the back of the stand) half completed for many years - the 'Whitley Whiff' ( a bit about it here - note the photo with both Smallmead tracks in the background: http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/ten-years-whitley-whiff-vanished-7226754 )

Here's an extract from the 2007 Marketing Report which the BSPA commissioned: 3.30 What do we know about the fans? A couple of years ago a consumer research project was commissioned the BSPA and clubs were asked to distribute questionnaires. Again, many clubs were not particularly co-operative so the results will have to be taken with a pinch of salt. However, they do give a rough guidance: 70% of people who attend speedway meetings are male and 30% female. 20% bring their children 81% attend 10 or more meetings per season confirming that the sport is down to its hard core fans. Speedway fans are not particularly high earners with 31% earning below £20k and 39% earning between £21k – 40k. Their relatively low socio-demographics are also confirmed by the fact that 63% read The Star, The Sun or The Mirror. Also 31% have no qualifications and another 45% are educated to GCSE/O Level. Only 9% hold a university degree. 17% are 19-24 years old, 21% 25-34 years old and 23% 35-49 years old. All in all, this does represent a segment of society which is not particularly interesting to sponsors. Around 20% of people attend meetings with their kids, 63% with family adults and 72% attend with 1-3 other people. What is interesting is the response the respondents gave when asked why attended speedway meetings: Support the home team 30% The atmosphere 23% A good night out 20% Quality of the teams 10% Family night out 6% Other 11% Total 100% Where speedway differs significantly from other sports is the relatively little importance support for the home team actually plays, whereas the actual evening out, the smell, the noise etc is much more important. Having discussed this with die-hards, casual and lapsed speedway goers and never-beens it is quite interesting that, despite the inadequate facilities, catering and all the other issues watching live speedway can engender an excitement that developed and marketed the right way could be one of the key strands in the turnaround of the sport. What is also interesting is that the die-hards have a strong support for the sport as such and not necessarily for a particular club. “But how does speedway become "corporately" acceptable, so that a night at the local track is an alternative to other options such as horse racing? Until you've been, it's hard to appreciate how the smell, the noise and the excitement create one of the most vibrant atmospheres in all sport, but empty stands and dilapidated stadiums have trouble matching a nice marquee at Haydock. I'm not suggesting that speedway is on a level with paintballing, but perhaps it needs to be more imaginative in the way it targets work-related parties who want to go out for a good time.” John Inverdale, The Daily Telegraph